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Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:19 am
I was rambling in my head on awareness and decided to check some things out.
I was watching some bird mating rituals and got to wondering why they would care when pheromones and hormones would get the job done without the rituals.
Humans have about 86B neurons with 19-23B concentrated in the cerebral cortex. (19B for women and 23B for men.) An African elephant has 11B in the cerebral cortex with a roundworm having 302 total. The roundworm has 7500 synapses, whereas a human has 1E15. As a side note, it turns out that Autism seems to be based on excessive synapses.
If we assume that our awareness is based in neural synaptic processes, we would have to assume the roundworm has some awareness. With birds having more, that would suggest that they are aware of and do appreciate the ritual.
Interesting article on bird brains.
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:39 am
I'm aware of german porn - and yet I do not appreciate.
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:42 am
(December 15, 2014 at 10:39 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'm aware of german porn - and yet I do not appreciate.
None of it?
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:42 am
I looked over the article and will probably read it later today. Ravens are my favorite bird because they are so intelligent.
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2014 at 10:46 am by Alex K.)
(December 15, 2014 at 10:42 am)Nope Wrote: I looked over the article and will probably read it later today. Ravens are my favorite bird because they are so intelligent.
Don't miss out on the jackdaws and relatives, they can be mad smart as well 
The other day while waiting in the car, I saw a carrion crow lay a walnut on the street. She was then waiting for cars to run it over to crack it. After looking at the nut for a while, she decided that the placement wasn't optimal and moved it by a foot or so. The next car that passed cracked it and she took the pieces. Crazy birds!
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:45 am
(December 15, 2014 at 10:42 am)Nope Wrote: Ravens are my favorite bird because they are so intelligent. Have you seen this?
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:47 am
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Not that I'm aware of, lol...no.
Grey Parrots.....btw
"You be good. See you tomorrow. I love you."-famous last words of Alex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_%28parrot%29
(check out the problem solving strategies of cephalopods Iatia)
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 10:59 am
(December 15, 2014 at 10:47 am)Rhythm Wrote: (check out the problem solving strategies of cephalopods Iatia) They have 300,000,000 neurons.
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 11:21 am
Wow The raven not only used a tool, the stick, but modified it by putting a hook in it.
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RE: Awareness
December 15, 2014 at 12:14 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 10:45 am)IATIA Wrote: (December 15, 2014 at 10:42 am)Nope Wrote: Ravens are my favorite bird because they are so intelligent. Have you seen this?
Yeah, I have. They're impressive creatures. There are many many more of these vids around. Some of them funny, because they're acting seemingly human, like kicking a fellow raven for stealing food, some of the actually amazing.
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