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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
February 24, 2010 at 4:12 am
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(February 23, 2010 at 11:43 pm)Alex Wrote: (February 23, 2010 at 5:00 pm)Samson Wrote: As another poster stated, on another topic here on the AF....
"Apparently All religions can lead to a successful life"........ That's actually not what he said. If you're going to try to quote at least do it accurately.
Hey Dumbass..... Go here and read on his post http://atheistforums.org/thread-2983-page-18.html
.....It's under the 1st one listed...
Quote:1) Six days of work and a day of rest. Doesn't that sound more like a parable of work ethics more than it does a realization of God's limited power? You're hunting for something that isn't there. Place your scrutiny aside and actually pay attention; you'll find Christianity, as with all religions, is a guide on how to live a successful life.
Holy shit, look at that...How much more accurate do you want it thumper???
Oh wait.....Was that the "Blind Side" coming out in you??..... 
Was it because I didn't put "Guide" in there, or "Christians" etc......Please.....
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
February 24, 2010 at 7:10 am
(February 23, 2010 at 7:49 pm)padraic Wrote: Quote:I watched a documentary about an Irish priest. Fucked if I can remember his name
His name is Legion.
For we are many? 
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
February 24, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Rev. Rye Wrote:Hell, I am depressed to say that there's actually one church close to me (less than twenty miles) that has so many abuse cases linked to it that you would have to write a book to contain them all. You shit bricks when you see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Eek. What was that line in The Boondock Saints? I think it was "We must all fear evil men, but there is another evil we must fear more and that is the indifference of good men." That is how I feel when I see that things like that are allowed to continue right under our noses.
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 6, 2010 at 10:42 pm
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By the way, I recently came across a copy of the book that inspired the death.
Here is an archived copy of the full text.
For somebody who doesn't want to read the parenting equivalent of Mein Kampf, here are two sites with highlights.
On Stoptherod.net
On Rationalwiki.
Moral of the story: if you hate children, just don't have them, and don't tell others how to raise theirs.
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 6, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Unfortunately, stories like this have become so commonplace in our society today that most of the world seems to have become desensitized to them. This is from March of last year (sorry, I have to post the whole thing instead of a link because of the 10-post rule).
Police are conducting interviews Thursday in an effort to determine whether charges will be filed against a couple who prayed rather than seeking medical help for their 11-year-old daughter, who died Sunday from a treatable diabetic condition.
"We certainly believe that even though they firmly believed in their faith that they have a responsibility to provide medical attention for their daughter," Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin told FOX News.
An autopsy concluded that Madeline Neumann of Weston, Wis., died Sunday from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body. Investigators said she probably had been ill for about 30 days, suffering from symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
"I believe that they did know she was ill, especially in the last week or so," Vergin said. "We know that the mother had communicated with her sister-in-law and others, and so certainly they had known she was ill and getting worse each day as this disease progressed."
Leilani Neumann, Madeline's mother, told the Associated Press that she never expected her daughter to die.
"We just noticed a tiredness within the past two weeks," Neumann said. "And then just the day before and that day [she died], it suddenly just went to a more serious situation. We stayed fast in prayer then. We believed that she would recover. We saw signs that to us, it looked like she was recovering."
Wisconsin Social Services has interviewed the family's three other children — ages 13, 14 and 17 — and had them examined by a medical doctor, Vergin said. They will most likely be returned to the home.
It will be up to the district attorney to decide whether or not to file charges against Madeline's parents, Vergin said.
"The parents certainly didn't want their daughter to die, they didn't want her to be ill," Vergin said. "They just chose a course of action that allowed her to regress into coma and then death."
The parents in this particular story KNEW that their daughter was sick, but instead of actually taking her to a doctor, they just invited more "prayer warriors" to come to their house and fast and pray with them. But the worst part about all of this is that the majority of mainstream "christians" out there will say "Well, they were obviously wrong to not take her to a doctor, but they WERE doing what they thought was right." So was Hitler.
By the way, I'm new to this forum. So, hi.
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 7, 2010 at 1:15 am
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Quote:Holy shit, look at that...How much more accurate do you want it thumper???
You'll be getting the "out of context" routine soon, Sam. That's always the fall-back position.
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 7, 2010 at 5:34 am
(February 24, 2010 at 3:59 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Just remember kiddies,
"God is love!"
The Love of "Evil"?
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 10, 2010 at 12:12 pm
(March 6, 2010 at 11:32 pm)Scarecrow2407 Wrote: The parents in this particular story KNEW that their daughter was sick, but instead of actually taking her to a doctor, they just invited more "prayer warriors" to come to their house and fast and pray with them. But the worst part about all of this is that the majority of mainstream "christians" out there will say "Well, they were obviously wrong to not take her to a doctor, but they WERE doing what they thought was right." So was Hitler.
By the way, I'm new to this forum. So, hi.
Yours in doubt,
Scarecrow.
Ah, yes... they passed up modern medical science which has a proven track record of success in favor of performing a superstitious ritual which has no proven record of success. And their daughter paid the price. Morons. They may as well have hired a witch doctor to dance around the stricken girl and shake a rattle. I'm sure it would have been as effective as the prayers.
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 10, 2010 at 1:13 pm
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What Kevin and Elizabeth did was absolutely horrible, and all true Christians would agree with me, but PLEASE do no use this to stereotype all Christians. Non-Christians are capable of this as well. You don't want me to use Joseph Stalin to broadbrush atheists, do you?
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RE: Religious Nuts beat their own Child to death.
March 10, 2010 at 1:21 pm
(March 10, 2010 at 1:13 pm)Gilligan Wrote: What Kevin and Elizabeth did was absolutely horrible, but PLEASE do no use this to stereotype all Christians. Non-Christians are capable of this as well.
No one is stereotyping Christians, but it does paint a picture as to how religion can skew a person's view of reality. Many people are incorrigible. That in itself is not a bad trait, but when coupled with a belief that is unfounded, can cause all kinds of destruction.
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