Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo

[Neo-Scholastic]

Sure we are living a highly dangerous environment. These assholes are striking at the core values of modern civilization. But are we prepared to say Charlie Hebdo deserved it because they were drunk and wearing short skirts?

[Lucanus]

If the % of morons on this forum is representative of the West, we're fucked. We should all give up and accept submission to Islam. You're a bunch of fucking morons who (A) while being attacked relentlessly by Islamofuckwits are (B) fixated on seeing Nazis to the point of suicidal inaction. You're still fucking paralysed by fucking WW2 you fucking morons. You can't discriminate to save your own lives, that's what it boils down to. Fuck the West, it's full of fucking morons. GAME OVER. THEY WIN. The West is dead. Stone cold dead.

Dude, you're way out of your mind. Should we build a wall separating us sane people from Christians and rightwing nutjobs because of Breivik's actions?
Oh, right, he was rooting for your cause...

[abaris]

Sure we are living a highly dangerous environment. These assholes are striking at the core values of modern civilization. But are we prepared to say Charlie Hebdo deserved it because they were drunk and wearing short skirts?

Who's saying they deserved it for anything, let alone the above?

This whole thread is about an ill informed bigot calling for concentration camps. There's a difference between opposing radicalism and indiscriminately rounding up people.

[FatAndFaithless]

This whole thread is about an ill informed bigot calling for concentration camps. There's a difference between opposing radicalism and indiscriminately rounding up people.

Opposing radicalism with radicalism, what could go wrong?

[Hoopington]

This whole thread is about an ill informed bigot calling for concentration camps. There's a difference between opposing radicalism and indiscriminately rounding up people.

Opposing radicalism with radicalism, what could go wrong?

It's genuinely staggering that I've now seen somebody advocating concentration camps, it really is.

Worrying, very, very worrying.

[abaris]

It's genuinely staggering that I've now seen somebody advocating concentration camps, it really is.

Worrying, very, very worrying.

It's not the first time this happened. The last time it was combined with starving them by imposing sanctions and bombing them off and on. I've also seen the call for taking away muslim children and to deport their parents. That's straight out of Heinrich Himmler's book too.

[Thumpalumpacus]

NOTHING will quell fanaticism, because it's not fanaticism, or extremism, or radicalism. It's Islamic FUNDAMENTALISM. It's PURE MOHAMMEDISM. That's the point you left-liberal morons don't get. That's why Islam and the West need a D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

If you don't have a viable solution, shut up and let the adults carry the conversation. The point you don't get is that our policies should be aimed at prying away the moderate support from the fanatical minority, and then jailing the fanatics as we catch them.

Putting Muslims into ghettoes is one of the most asinine suggestions I've read from you yet -- and believe me, I already have a terribly low opinion of your ability to think. You apparently haven't heard what happens when you do stuff like this. Go Google Warsaw 1943 Jews ... or look at the Gaza Strip as it stands today.

I'm not afraid of Muslims, the real existential threat in my neighbourhood is CHINA. I'm just thinking proactively, rather than reacting with short-sighted testosterone.

Odd. It's always been my experience that suggestions this idiotic are based in fear. I suppose that I have to chalk this up to you simply being hare-brained, then.

Also, I don't think it's a coincidence that your source uses the term "Eurabia". Let me think, where have I heard that before?

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If the % of morons on this forum is representative of the West, we're fucked. We should all give up and accept submission to Islam. You're a bunch of fucking morons who (A) while being attacked relentlessly by Islamofuckwits are (B) fixated on seeing Nazis to the point of suicidal inaction. You're still fucking paralysed by fucking WW2 you fucking morons. You can't discriminate to save your own lives, that's what it boils down to. Fuck the West, it's full of fucking morons. GAME OVER. THEY WIN. The West is dead. Stone cold dead.

Blow me, Angus. Just because you cannot see any solution but your own doesn't mean another solution doesn't exist. It just means you're too dense to see it.

The fact is, I'm very happy to discriminate, and with an even finer file than you. You see, I don't mind putting fanatics in jail when they break the law.

What I'm not willing to do is lock up large groups of people for the "crime" of having a particular faith.

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I can honestly say I did not expect this from mralstoner.

I know, right? He's always seemed so fair-minded and unbigoted.

I'm enjoying his meltdown, but he needs to step up his game. Right now he's only about a six or so.

[100 Years of Solitude]

What OP proposed we cannot ever consider, not even in the most desperate of times.

However one must wonder what can we do about the injustices that happen daily in some eastern countries (where secularism isn't a thing but once was 1000 ago) such as lack of freddom of speech, ethnic cleansing, homophobia, violation of women rights and all the sorts of discrimination.

Do we sit still and do nothing hoping the problem goes away, do we invade under some false pretext just so most of the population opposes and rejects change, do we use the tools that are available as some sort of propaganda to promote the change...?

But again lack of education and a deeply flawed set of values are gunpowder that religion quickly ignites.

[Thumpalumpacus]

In a battle of ideas, more speech is the best strategy, I think.

[Bad Wolf]

If the % of morons on this forum is representative of the West, we're fucked. We should all give up and accept submission to Islam. You're a bunch of fucking morons who (A) while being attacked relentlessly by Islamofuckwits are (B) fixated on seeing Nazis to the point of suicidal inaction. You're still fucking paralysed by fucking WW2 you fucking morons. You can't discriminate to save your own lives, that's what it boils down to. Fuck the West, it's full of fucking morons. GAME OVER. THEY WIN. The West is dead. Stone cold dead.

Well why don't you go and live somewhere else than the west? Maybe North Korea? They like the idea of concentration camps too.