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Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
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RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 10:52 am)mralstoner Wrote: If the % of morons on this forum is representative of the West, we're fucked. We should all give up and accept submission to Islam. You're a bunch of fucking morons who (A) while being attacked relentlessly by Islamofuckwits are (B) fixated on seeing Nazis to the point of suicidal inaction. You're still fucking paralysed by fucking WW2 you fucking morons. You can't discriminate to save your own lives, that's what it boils down to. Fuck the West, it's full of fucking morons. GAME OVER. THEY WIN. The West is dead. Stone cold dead.

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"Our side"? The side of australian nativist yokels is not our side. Your brandish words like "western civilization" doesn't elevate your yokelism by a millimeter. Your side losing profits our side.
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#32
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 10:48 am)abaris Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 8:10 am)Brakeman Wrote: Force the muslims to live in a world where the freedom to question religion is fully defended, and their next generation will not try to assume that religion can flourish by threat. Their theology will change to meet the new reality.

One question: How can "force" and "freedom" coexist in one sentence?

How many of your government backed freedoms were not the result of force being applied to those who wished to control you?

Freedom of the press
freedom of association
freedom of speech
freedom of/from religion
and hundreds more all stem from unified force being applied to people and regimes that once denied or wished to deny those freedoms from you.

Freedom without a history of "force vs controllers" has not been tempered or proven yet.
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#33
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
It's amazing that in this day and age, with all that history has shown us, that people still want to respond to barbarianism and bigotry with more barbarianism and bigotry. The west would cease to exist as the entire world descended into Middle Eastern style chaos.

And the fact that stoner here has nothing but character assasination just shows what kind of logical ground this idea is standing on.
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#34
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
I'm honestly worried that he got hacked or something. This isn't out of left field as much as out of left field from a couple stadiums down the road.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 3:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'm honestly worried that he got hacked or something. This isn't out of left field as much as out of left field from a couple stadiums down the road.

You're talking about the OP? Every post I've seen from him so far was disgustingly bigoted. It's not the first time he brought the idea of muslim concentration camps up. Last time it was coupled with bombing them off and on and imposing crippling sanctions.

You might have seen a different guy at some time, but I haven't seen him yet.
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#36
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 4:05 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 3:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I'm honestly worried that he got hacked or something. This isn't out of left field as much as out of left field from a couple stadiums down the road.

You're talking about the OP? Every post I've seen from him so far was disgustingly bigoted. It's not the first time he brought the idea of muslim concentration camps up. Last time it was coupled with bombing them off and on and imposing crippling sanctions.

You might have seen a different guy at some time, but I haven't seen him yet.
Really? Yikes. I suppose I've only seen the vaguely neutral "average atheist" evidence-required sentiments, not any political ones. Maybe it's not so left-field after all.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#37
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
If we're going to build a wall for them, we might as well build a wall for people like you to prevent spread of irrational ideas - That's actually a quite good idea, I'm a proponent for a temporary dictatorship to clean shit up.

Muslims rarely make up 10% of the population, and most of the hate is spread not by atheists but by conservatives [ultra ones] - Do you want to side with these morons that are equally bad?

I still have doubts if Christians and nationalists or populists dislike Muslims because of Islam or simply because they usually have a different race and come from a different culture... I venture into this last hypothesis
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#38
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 4:39 am)mralstoner Wrote: Typical fucking left-liberal moron. A wall is a wall, it's not a concentration camp. Yes, it curbs their freedoms, that's the whole point. But we're not gassing, starving or persecuting anyone.

Locking a group of people behind walls to prohibit their interaction with society at large is very clearly persecution, but that aside, if I had meant 'death camps' instead of 'concentration camps', that's what I would have said. Moron.

Quote:It's people like you, who cry at tough decisions, who will consign the West to permanent, never-ending massacres just like in Paris. You're pathetic, incompetent, self-hating losers who can't make adult decisions. Fuck you juvenile morons.

I cry when people suggest resorting to fascism to solve problems, especially coming from the fascists who are 100% responsible for the existence of the problem.

Quote:In hindsight, the West is full of dickeads like Ryantology, so we're going to need a third solution. And that's for all the sane people to move to safe parts of the West, and the demented fuckers like Ryan can live with his Muslim friends... if they decide to let him live, that is.

I don't like Islam at all and my viewpoints are easily found anywhere on this forum. It's just that, rightwingers like you are no better than they are. The primary difference is that our rightwingers are too lazy and cowardly to carry out the armed assault on American democracy they keep threatening.
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#39
RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 10:52 am)mralstoner Wrote: If the % of morons on this forum is representative of the West, we're fucked. We should all give up and accept submission to Islam. You're a bunch of fucking morons who (A) while being attacked relentlessly by Islamofuckwits are (B) fixated on seeing Nazis to the point of suicidal inaction. You're still fucking paralysed by fucking WW2 you fucking morons. You can't discriminate to save your own lives, that's what it boils down to. Fuck the West, it's full of fucking morons. GAME OVER. THEY WIN. The West is dead. Stone cold dead.

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The people who you should be attacking is the republicans.... they bend over backwards for special pleading and back door lobbying bills. Leave the liberals and the democrat party out of it. All in all 1 group is terrible the other one is a least bit terrible.
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RE: Mark Steyn on Charlie Hebdo
(January 8, 2015 at 11:31 am)abaris Wrote:
(January 8, 2015 at 11:28 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Sure we are living a highly dangerous environment. These assholes are striking at the core values of modern civilization. But are we prepared to say Charlie Hebdo deserved it because they were drunk and wearing short skirts?

Who's saying they deserved it for anything, let alone the above?

This whole thread is about an ill informed bigot calling for concentration camps. There's a difference between opposing radicalism and indiscriminately rounding up people.


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