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RE: Secularism..
January 11, 2015 at 12:48 pm
(January 9, 2015 at 8:27 pm)IATIA Wrote: The problem with any attempt at a truly secular government is the majority of the politicians will be religious and use religion to gain position and power and use this position and power to influence the laws in accordance with their respective beliefs.
The only way it could work, is for government to completely ignore religion and make any mention of religious beliefs, while in the public view, completely illegal and disqualify them from further office. Other than that, treat religious institutes the same as any other business without any laws specifically favoring or punishing them.
Oh wait. Is not that what our constitution says? Damn, guess that will not work either.
Secularism does not mean that politicians will not be uninfluenced by their own religious beliefs about morality etc. Nor does it mean that the religious should not, or cannot hold office. It means that religion should not enforce or support religion.
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RE: Secularism..
January 11, 2015 at 12:55 pm
A politician should not profess his religion or belief on an official medium. I, as a voter, should not know or care whether the politician is a muslim, a christian, a buddhist, an atheist or whatever.
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RE: Secularism..
January 18, 2015 at 6:33 pm
(January 11, 2015 at 12:39 pm)Davka Wrote: I was under the impression that religion has very little influence on political life in the UK. Am I living in a fool's paradise?
Agreed, but if you google "britains first muslim mp"...
You'll get reams of celebratory posts... but my point is, I don't care... just do what's right for your voters.
Saying you're muslim suggests that you won't do your best for the atheists in your ward
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