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Stephen Fry on God
#61
RE: Stephen Fry on God
A very correct answer. Of course --- the problem of God creating insects that borough from the inside of kid's eyes out to make them blind only exists if you believe that God exists in the first place. Likewise, bone-cancer in children ---- and several other problems as well.
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#62
RE: Stephen Fry on God
(February 26, 2015 at 4:22 am)robvalue Wrote: Why would the bible be written in such an utterly confusing way right from the start? Why not just say what time periods they meant, especially if they expected the reader to somehow realize each "day" was not as long as each other "day"?

Or are you suggesting God rested for 50,000+ years? And why do you honour the sabbath if it was a 50,000 year period and nothing to do with Sunday?

In fact, God resting right now would explain a lot.

God can't rest - there's plenty of African babies he hasn't murdered yet.

Busy, busy, busy.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#63
RE: Stephen Fry on God
Oh yeah. He teaches forgiveness, then can't forgive the consumption of a fruit against his wishes thousands of years ago and takes it out on newborns.

Fuck you, God. Fuck you and your ridiculous trio of ludicrous mind rapeage.

If you weren't imaginary I would so kick your arse.
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#65
RE: Stephen Fry on God
Parts of the bible confirmed to be false are metaphorical. The rest is literal, until any of that gets proven false too, then that part also become metaphorical.

Come on man. I'd have an easier time argueing Lord of the rings was a true story.
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#66
RE: Stephen Fry on God
(February 26, 2015 at 5:27 am)robvalue Wrote: Oh yeah. He teaches forgiveness, then can't forgive the consumption of a fruit against his wishes thousands of years ago and takes it out on newborns.

Fuck you, God. Fuck you and your ridiculous trio of ludicrous mind rapeage.

If you weren't imaginary I would so kick your arse.

Because if god teaches forgiveness and he himself cannot forgive original sin without a blood sacrifice aka jc he is a hypocrite and not worth anyone's time.

(February 26, 2015 at 8:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Parts of the bible confirmed to be false are metaphorical. The rest is literal, until any of that gets proven false too, then that part also become metaphorical.

Come on man. I'd have an easier time argueing Lord of the rings was a true story.

But it did happen i swear and we need to thank the heroes that saved us.
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(February 26, 2015 at 8:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Parts of the bible confirmed to be false are metaphorical. The rest is literal, until any of that gets proven false too, then that part also become metaphorical.

Come on man. I'd have an easier time argueing Lord of the rings was a true story.

I've tried to read the bible several times. I can't really get much further than Genesis. It's just so fucking boring, and from the very first page it's clear that it was written and compiled by people who were just winging it. It's just a mishmash of nonsense and questionable genealogy. I'm astounded that it maintains its hold on people today.
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#68
RE: Stephen Fry on God
(February 26, 2015 at 12:22 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(February 26, 2015 at 8:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Parts of the bible confirmed to be false are metaphorical. The rest is literal, until any of that gets proven false too, then that part also become metaphorical.

Come on man. I'd have an easier time argueing Lord of the rings was a true story.

I've tried to read the bible several times. I can't really get much further than Genesis. It's just so fucking boring, and from the very first page it's clear that it was written and compiled by people who were just winging it. It's just a mishmash of nonsense and questionable genealogy. I'm astounded that it maintains its hold on people today.

I really hate the argument "Have you read it"? I got the same argument from an atheist when I told him Buddhism was as much bologna. "Have you studied it"?

All of them were started in an age of scientific ignorance. How much of a comic book do you have to read before you realize it is a comic book. Religion is a result of gap filling, a flaw in humans perceptions. It is good for creating groups for resources and numbers, but it is still a sugar pill.

There is not one thing in any religion that depicts good acts or explains our bad acts as a species. They all are attempts at explaining life. But life is explained by our evolution, not the artificial clubs humans invent.

Lots of atheists and Buddhists like to claim Buddhism is atheistic. That is no different than claiming Jews can be atheists. Yes you can find Jews who like the religion and the rituals who don't believe in a god.

But, Asia and the Orient are full of Buddhists, from Japan to China and still contain different sects that have their own superstitions. Reincarnation, Karma, and "nats"=spirits. Buddhism is not superstition free.
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#69
RE: Stephen Fry on God
(February 26, 2015 at 12:22 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I've tried to read the bible several times. I can't really get much further than Genesis. It's just so fucking boring, and from the very first page it's clear that it was written and compiled by people who were just winging it. It's just a mishmash of nonsense and questionable genealogy. I'm astounded that it maintains its hold on people today.

Try reading the Jefferson bible it cuts all those bits out.

(February 26, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(February 26, 2015 at 12:22 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I've tried to read the bible several times. I can't really get much further than Genesis. It's just so fucking boring, and from the very first page it's clear that it was written and compiled by people who were just winging it. It's just a mishmash of nonsense and questionable genealogy. I'm astounded that it maintains its hold on people today.

I really hate the argument "Have you read it"? I got the same argument from an atheist when I told him Buddhism was as much bologna. "Have you studied it"?

All of them were started in an age of scientific ignorance. How much of a comic book do you have to read before you realize it is a comic book. Religion is a result of gap filling, a flaw in humans perceptions. It is good for creating groups for resources and numbers, but it is still a sugar pill.

There is not one thing in any religion that depicts good acts or explains our bad acts as a species. They all are attempts at explaining life. But life is explained by our evolution, not the artificial clubs humans invent.

Lots of atheists and Buddhists like to claim Buddhism is atheistic. That is no different than claiming Jews can be atheists. Yes you can find Jews who like the religion and the rituals who don't believe in a god.

But, Asia and the Orient are full of Buddhists, from Japan to China and still contain different sects that have their own superstitions. Reincarnation, Karma, and "nats"=spirits. Buddhism is not superstition free.

I tend to like Buddhism over christianity even though Buddhism has its share of bullshit and violence i still like it. Considering how inhuman christianity is.
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(February 26, 2015 at 1:31 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(February 26, 2015 at 12:22 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: I've tried to read the bible several times. I can't really get much further than Genesis. It's just so fucking boring, and from the very first page it's clear that it was written and compiled by people who were just winging it. It's just a mishmash of nonsense and questionable genealogy. I'm astounded that it maintains its hold on people today.

Try reading the Jefferson bible it cuts all those bits out.

(February 26, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I really hate the argument "Have you read it"? I got the same argument from an atheist when I told him Buddhism was as much bologna. "Have you studied it"?

All of them were started in an age of scientific ignorance. How much of a comic book do you have to read before you realize it is a comic book. Religion is a result of gap filling, a flaw in humans perceptions. It is good for creating groups for resources and numbers, but it is still a sugar pill.

There is not one thing in any religion that depicts good acts or explains our bad acts as a species. They all are attempts at explaining life. But life is explained by our evolution, not the artificial clubs humans invent.

Lots of atheists and Buddhists like to claim Buddhism is atheistic. That is no different than claiming Jews can be atheists. Yes you can find Jews who like the religion and the rituals who don't believe in a god.

But, Asia and the Orient are full of Buddhists, from Japan to China and still contain different sects that have their own superstitions. Reincarnation, Karma, and "nats"=spirits. Buddhism is not superstition free.

I tend to like Buddhism over christianity even though Buddhism has its share of bullshit and violence i still like it. Considering how inhuman christianity is.

Yea, seemingly less violent is really a POV, humans have always been violent and no religion has ever been peaceful 100% of the time.

All religions are volcanos, some are simply currently more dormant while others are currently more active.

I also have to add that not even the word "atheist" is a moral code. I don't like it when atheists claim they are above theism's actions. Our species ability to be cruel or compassion is in our evolution, not our labels. "atheist" is merely the "off" position on one claim. It is not a religion, a political party, moral code or loyalty oath or economic model. I don't like the idea of "atheist churches". It sounds harmless to atheists now, but after they are dead they won't be around to prevent "atheist" from going from a mere position to becoming "Atheist" a religion.
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