converting back unto theism - yes it's true.

[tavarish]

Much like yourself then Tav. You never actually knew any rational reason to believe when you claimed to be a Christian like you said in this post: http://atheistforums.org/thread-2492-pos...l#pid56709 - You've always been atheist.

The reason I left theism is because there was no rational reason for me to believe in God, therefore I did not feel compelled to do so. Everything before that was purely emotional and wishful thinking for the most part. I don't make that an argument for anyone else on the basis that it was my personal experience, and I honestly don't give a crap if you don't think I was being a real Christian.

I'm saying that this isn't the first thread in which TruthWorthy expressed that he had doubts in faith and saw arguments from a theistic standpoint.

Remember this?

http://atheistforums.org/thread-2981.html

I'm not doing the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, I'm just making an observation based on his individual threads and posts. There are no rites of passage to becoming an atheist, it's only the lack of belief in God. If you don't believe, then guess what you are? I'm thinking TruthWorthy had a lapse in faith and explored other options before coming to his current conclusion. I wish him the best, but I don't think it should be a "goodbye" thread just because his ideology has changed. If anything, this should spark some good debate on many topics.

Good luck, dude. I hope you're happy.

[tackattack]

And that's one more rational theist to add to the pot

[Autumnlicious]

And that's one more rational theist to add to the pot

Good good - I like rational theists and atheists!

[Violet]

And that's one more rational theist to add to the pot

And i'd like to someday meet a rational rutabaga!

More rational theists couldn't hurt

[Ace Otana]

I suppose my dreams are experienced as objective because I can literally see myself in them while this memory or vision put me within my subjective surroundings.
I consider this is one of the main differences between what I dream and what I remember, although I don't discount the possibility that a dream could occur putting a person in a subjective and apparently real conditions. eh, just my experience of it. It's really annoying that it's almost impossible to share with you all, I suppose you had to be there

Dreams can encourage beliefs pretty easily if you lead by emotions alone. Dreaming is the brains way of keeping itself active. The brain cannot/must not ever power down or it will risk serious damage. The brain will often use familiar places and events from it's memory. Putting random events and places together to form a dream. It's also suppost to feel as real as possible. Just another way for the brain to remain very active. I remember falling in love with a girl in my dream. Even hours after waking up, eventually had to accept that she wasn't real.

I would love to see other peoples dreams, would help give me a better perspective on things.

I'm pretty sure we have all experianced this one. When I was walking on a weak wooden bridge it collapsed and I fell but woke up before hitting the ground. Have you noticed that you always wake up just before hitting the ground? Strange that. Probably because you can't dream of yourself in non-existance.

[Tiberius]

I would love to see other peoples dreams, would help give me a better perspective on things.

Going off topic slightly, I've always wondered if the ability to see others thoughts would lead to world peace or world destruction. That is, if everyone knew and could understand how everyone else felt, would it cause a greater understanding of humanity, or cause people to flip out and start killing each other.

[Watson]

^I think the former is more likely, to be honest. It seems to me a greater understanding of how we as a species are connected could only benefit mankind. That being said, I think the ability might have to manifest naturally rather than through technological means for it to work properly. But I could be wrong.

TruthWorthy: I actually suspected this might happen a few weeks ago, but that's just me. I'm a little bit curious as to why you would revert to Catholicism specifically, but if it's your only theistic reference point, I get it. Take it and run from there!

[Ace Otana]

I would love to see other peoples dreams, would help give me a better perspective on things.

Going off topic slightly, I've always wondered if the ability to see others thoughts would lead to world peace or world destruction. That is, if everyone knew and could understand how everyone else felt, would it cause a greater understanding of humanity, or cause people to flip out and start killing each other.

Interesting to think about. To look into another persons viewpoint, personal experiance, dreams and stuff. But would all this allow us to understand each other better or will it do nothing? Tis a big question. The problem is finding the answer big enough to fit the question.

Would be nice to see how people can believe in god and such. From my point of view I see no reason to believe. Yet others do? I remain a little puzzled.

[tavarish]

I would love to see other peoples dreams, would help give me a better perspective on things.

Going off topic slightly, I've always wondered if the ability to see others thoughts would lead to world peace or world destruction. That is, if everyone knew and could understand how everyone else felt, would it cause a greater understanding of humanity, or cause people to flip out and start killing each other.

The 'Belcerebons' of Kakrafoon Kappa had a unhappy time. Once a serene and quiet civilization, a Galactic Tribunal sentenced them to telepathy because the rest of the galaxy found peaceful contemplation contemptuous. Ford Prefect compared them to Humans because the only way Belcerebons could stop transmitting their every thought was to talk endlessly about utter trivia

[Tiberius]

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