Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 27, 2022, 7:35 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Non Traditional Medicine
#31
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
(February 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Do you know what we call alternative medicine, that's been proven to work?
Medicine.

Goddammit. As soon as I saw the title of this thread that exact phrase ran through my head, but I got beaten to the punchline by an unsheltered wacko weeks ago.Smile

It's a bit simplistic of a statement because it ignores the political and business side of medicine, but it hammers the point home.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Reply
#32
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
(March 2, 2015 at 11:44 am)Vox Populi Wrote: I ran across a man who saw a connection between Hog's Feed and Curing Mental disorder... Mainly Bipolar 1-2. It seemed interesting and it all started by a Mormon man who had NO degree's in Mental health. At first, I was like.... huh... this man might have something here but once you dug deeper into the video it started to become more and more of a bunch of bull. They interviewed people who had professions in that area of science and most of them agreed it was weird and not proven (obviously) yet there were people who tried it and it worked. He then formulated it into a human form with a bizzilion of pills a day to treat the Bipolar condition. I now see him as a total quack after looking over it... I class it next to those "alternative therapies" to quit smoking. I am suprised that they can sell this kind of jargon in the stores.

Funny enough this particular treatment (hogs feed formulation) ended up on quack watch.

I can see a *few* alternative therapies combined with modern medicine to help but as a cure all? no not at all.

I think supplementing treatments with altermatives is always going to happen and nobody can stop it. Indeed if those supplements are harmless (homeopathy) then really nobody has a problem.

When people start asserting that said supplements have not only a demonstrable physical effect, but an effect that is more efficacious than than an actual medical treatment, that's when we see a problem. Crazy is more infectious than rational and sound of mind, especially when you're physically and emotionally vulnerable from a treatment that is demonstrably proven to work (chemotherapy for example) but can also leave you broken (I've spent more than enough time in an oncology ward. there's nothing more saddening) . Someone coming along and saying that there's an altnernative to the pain, and it's just as good if not better so long as you give me £10k, will always get people tempted.

And it's these people we need to target, expose, and humiliate.
Reply
#33
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
(February 19, 2015 at 4:54 am)robvalue Wrote: What does the second person get?

Aromatherapy Big Grin

A kick in the nuts.

Tongue
Dying to live, living to die.
Reply
#34
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
And yet my buttocks remain slap less...
Reply
#35
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
This just in:

http://youtu.be/lCRTDIYG6gE
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.

Index of useful threads and discussions
Index of my best videos
Quickstart guide to the forum
Reply
#36
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
Reply
#37
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
(March 2, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote:
(March 2, 2015 at 11:44 am)Vox Populi Wrote: I ran across a man who saw a connection between Hog's Feed and Curing Mental disorder... Mainly Bipolar 1-2. It seemed interesting and it all started by a Mormon man who had NO degree's in Mental health. At first, I was like.... huh... this man might have something here but once you dug deeper into the video it started to become more and more of a bunch of bull. They interviewed people who had professions in that area of science and most of them agreed it was weird and not proven (obviously) yet there were people who tried it and it worked. He then formulated it into a human form with a bizzilion of pills a day to treat the Bipolar condition. I now see him as a total quack after looking over it... I class it next to those "alternative therapies" to quit smoking. I am suprised that they can sell this kind of jargon in the stores.

Funny enough this particular treatment (hogs feed formulation) ended up on quack watch.

I can see a *few* alternative therapies combined with modern medicine to help but as a cure all? no not at all.

I think supplementing treatments with altermatives is always going to happen and nobody can stop it. Indeed if those supplements are harmless (homeopathy) then really nobody has a problem.

When people start asserting that said supplements have not only a demonstrable physical effect, but an effect that is more efficacious than than an actual medical treatment, that's when we see a problem. Crazy is more infectious than rational and sound of mind, especially when you're physically and emotionally vulnerable from a treatment that is demonstrably proven to work (chemotherapy for example) but can also leave you broken (I've spent more than enough time in an oncology ward. there's nothing more saddening) . Someone coming along and saying that there's an altnernative to the pain, and it's just as good if not better so long as you give me £10k, will always get people tempted.

And it's these people we need to target, expose, and humiliate.

I agree in the case of combining treatments but this guy (without doctors advice... though the package says to ask) is taking people off there meds to switch to this treatment. He did it to his son and he is fine and all hunky-dorry but imagine someone out there just thinking its a cure all. If you ever get a chance watch "Boy Interrupted" on YouTube its a 15 year old who has severe bipolar 2 and he was going off meds slowly well he hit a breaking point and killed himself. Its a sad documentary with ALOT of home video. Did you ever have someone in the oncology ward ever do that to you? I see these guys as sharks.... Looking for a get rich quick.
Reply
#38
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...are_btn_fb

Says everything we need to know.
Reply
#39
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
(March 3, 2015 at 12:52 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: And yet my buttocks remain slap less...

As soon as I can fly to your location I'll happily slap you.

But not on the arse.

And I think you misspelled "chap-less" anyway . . .
Dying to live, living to die.
Reply
#40
RE: Non Traditional Medicine
Non Traditional Medicine or traditional, it doesn't matter, whatever works, works.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [Serious] Non-binary Foxaire 129 4000 July 1, 2021 at 6:37 pm
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  Weird medicine. brewer 6 240 February 6, 2021 at 8:41 am
Last Post: brewer
  Quackery in Mainstream Medicine brewer 1 479 January 28, 2017 at 3:31 pm
Last Post: Mermaid
  Modern medicine - still the third leading cause of death John V 108 6643 July 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Prayer Medicine Dragonetti 9 2949 April 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  Faith: Preferred or Not in Medicine? Gawdkins 4 1183 March 4, 2013 at 9:07 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  origin of life(pushing non anthropocintricism to the limit minos 11 3884 November 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Last Post: Welsh cake
  Musings on Alternative Medicine thesummerqueen 0 725 November 4, 2011 at 10:08 am
Last Post: thesummerqueen
  Neanderthals interbred with non African populations Autumnlicious 56 13505 July 25, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Placebo, Nocebo, Faith, Non-faith...It's all in the Genes?? KichigaiNeko 0 1141 May 27, 2011 at 2:19 am
Last Post: KichigaiNeko



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)