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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 20, 2015 at 4:07 pm
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(March 20, 2015 at 2:50 pm)robvalue Wrote: Right, well my legs aren't perfect either, but I'm not going to saw them off.
But you also won't use them to run a marathon and win the race. Use them for what they are good for. If they aren't good for other things, don't use them. BTW, they still might be good for kicking ass....
(March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
I have no earthly idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
That is exactly the point. Now have a sip of that coffee, tea or whatever.
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm
(March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I have no earthly idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
Executive Summary:
"You have unjustified beliefs, too. Do so! Do so! So we're even."
See also Ad Hominem Tu Quoque.
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... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm
LOVE is a four letter word...
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 20, 2015 at 5:29 pm
So now that's all sorted and I've sawn my legs off, let's review.
It's pretty hard to get anyone to give us a coherent definition of God. Even if they do, there's no evidence that such a thing is even possible, let alone actually exists.
Unperturbed, we are given extra claims that this possibly impossible being has unlimited powers and only good intentions, never mind that this raises all kinds of logical paradoxes.
But it's OK! We can forget logic because God doesn't have to conform to logic.
Well, that's alright then, he's just back to possibly impossible. But we can't investigate him using logic anymore.
I think that's a rap so I'm going to drag myself to the shops and buy fifty cans of beans.
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 20, 2015 at 5:37 pm
(March 20, 2015 at 5:29 pm)robvalue Wrote: I think that's a rap so I'm going to drag myself to the shops and buy fifty cans of beans.
Please, no, I'll call you a cab!
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 23, 2015 at 8:16 am
(March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I have no earthly idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
Executive Summary:
"You have unjustified beliefs, too. Do so! Do so! So we're even."
See also Ad Hominem Tu Quoque.
I mean, I've seen plenty of tu quoque's and ad homs before, but nothing that convoluted, rambling, opaque, and substanceless. It's like every sentence is crafted with the utmost care to hide the point he's trying to make instead of illustrate it.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 23, 2015 at 8:24 am
(March 23, 2015 at 8:16 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Executive Summary:
"You have unjustified beliefs, too. Do so! Do so! So we're even."
See also Ad Hominem Tu Quoque.
I mean, I've seen plenty of tu quoque's and ad homs before, but nothing that convoluted, rambling, opaque, and substanceless. It's like every sentence is crafted with the utmost care to hide the point he's trying to make instead of illustrate it. Sounds like an appropriate moment to quote Peter Medawar:
"In all territories of thought which science or philosophy can lay claim to, including those upon which literature has also a proper claim, no one who has something original or important to say will willingly run the risk of being misunderstood; people who write obscurely are either unskilled in writing or up to mischief."
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 23, 2015 at 8:36 am
(March 23, 2015 at 8:24 am)Nestor Wrote: Sounds like an appropriate moment to quote Peter Medawar:
"In all territories of thought which science or philosophy can lay claim to, including those upon which literature has also a proper claim, no one who has something original or important to say will willingly run the risk of being misunderstood; people who write obscurely are either unskilled in writing or up to mischief."
So what does that say about moderate Christian claims that the Bible is the inspired Word of God but it can't be read literally, that it must be carefully interpreted to understand its true meaning? The question is rhetorical and the reason this particular counter-argument against my early critiques of the Bible sounded more than a little flat.
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 23, 2015 at 8:39 am
(March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm)daver49 Wrote: Even Atheists have dogmas. I have seen them listed in this forum. You lying imbecile. Name one. Name one dogma that all atheists must follow in order to be classified as atheists.
Quote:Thinking never gets us where we want to be.
...but we'd never get anywhere without it.
Besides, I've achieved many things, in their totality, as a result of thinking. You're spouting nonsense in order to sound knowledgeable and worldly. Given that you seem to have lots of these stock answers but don't believe in thinking, I have to assume that you've stolen them from other people rather than made them up yourself.
Sum ergo sum
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RE: Square-circles Vs. God
March 23, 2015 at 11:57 am
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(March 23, 2015 at 8:39 am)Ben Davis Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm)daver49 Wrote: Even Atheists have dogmas. I have seen them listed in this forum. You lying imbecile. .
You think, "he is a lying imbecile."
I think, "he thinks I am a lying imbecile."
You think....(whatever you are thinking right now).
(March 23, 2015 at 8:39 am)Ben Davis Wrote: (March 20, 2015 at 3:23 pm)daver49 Wrote: Even Atheists have dogmas. I have seen them listed in this forum. You lying imbecile. Name one. Name one dogma that all atheists must follow in order to be classified as atheists.
Quote:Thinking never gets us where we want to be.
...but we'd never get anywhere without it.
Besides, I've achieved many things, in their totality, as a result of thinking. You're spouting nonsense in order to sound knowledgeable and worldly. Given that you seem to have lots of these stock answers but don't believe in thinking, I have to assume that you've stolen them from other people rather than made them up yourself.
Hmmm...wait a minute while I check my voluminous file of stock answers....
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