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Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
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Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 27, 2010 at 10:36 am
I was watching a program about cosmology with my spiritualist wife when the program mentioned that there was matter that we cant see or interact with that accounted for 90% (I think it said) of the mass of the universe.
My wife suddenly became quite excited, and said 'couldnt that matter be the spirit realm' and more or less dared me to prove somehow that it wasn't.
A heated discussion ensued that ended with her being less than convinced that I was right.

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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 27, 2010 at 10:44 am
If she wants to claim that dark matter is the spirit realm (whatever that is) then she will notice pretty soon that that realm will get smaller as our measuring and detection methods improve over time. It's just a variation of " god of the gaps" argument.
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Dark matter is a place holder used to explain the behaviour of rotating galaxies and may not actually exist at all. As for it being a realm, then it's no more a realm than a cloud of gas and dust is.

Although I could be wrong Smile
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 27, 2010 at 2:49 pm
(March 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Dark matter is a place holder used to explain the behaviour of rotating galaxies and may not actually exist at all. As for it being a realm, then it's no more a realm than a cloud of gas and dust is.

Although I could be wrong Smile

Dark matter reminds me of the old, superseded concept of 'ester' or 'ether' that was said to be the medium that light travels through.
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 27, 2010 at 10:36 pm
I thought the "spirit realm" was non material.

So how can it be composed of dark matter?
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 28, 2010 at 12:57 am
lol, Zen, seems sound to me.

I've always tried to percieve of what dark matter could be...

and is it matter?
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 28, 2010 at 6:33 am (This post was last modified: March 28, 2010 at 6:35 am by downbeatplumb.)
(March 27, 2010 at 10:44 am)leo-rcc Wrote: If she wants to claim that dark matter is the spirit realm (whatever that is) then she will notice pretty soon that that realm will get smaller as our measuring and detection methods improve over time. It's just a variation of " god of the gaps" argument.

I thought of using the god of the gaps argument.
But in the end went the argument from ignorance route which, unfortunately seemed to give her enough of a chink to sit back and look smug.
(March 27, 2010 at 10:36 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: I thought the "spirit realm" was non material.

So how can it be composed of dark matter?

So how do you know Dark matter is material, no one knows what it is.
Maybe souls have a mass and this is what ii is.

By the way I dont believe this its just the way my wife was arguing.



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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 28, 2010 at 9:00 am
(March 28, 2010 at 6:33 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: So how do you know Dark matter is material, no one knows what it is.
Maybe souls have a mass and this is what ii is.

Well, It's dark "matter" not dark energy so by definition it must be material.

Though admittedly it is only theoretical.
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 28, 2010 at 9:47 am
I am confused. I thought dark matter were collasped atoms, such as black holes which does interact with matter. Neutrinos don't interact with matter that much, maybe that is what they were referring to.
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RE: Dark Matter and the spiritual realm
March 30, 2010 at 5:23 pm
For the "spirit realm" to have any relevance, it would first have to be proved that humans have an immaterial spirit. No one has proved this as yet.
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