Being gay is a fetish.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Now you are using my argument.

I have been arguing that the discrimination that happens against gays isn't so prevalent that it requires the government to curtail the rights of self determination.  Now you are making that exact same argument.

Hypocrite you are.

If homosexuality were a choice as bigotry is, your false equivalence wouldn't be so meaningless. And if you think gays have not been historically discriminated, then you're more ignorant than I had originally thought ... and that's saying something.

[Silver]

What the fuckity fuck.  I can state with absolute certainty that idiot white supremacists stated the same thing in relation to black people receiving their rights.  

[Polaris]

Sure there will be those who will be gay because they choose to do so whether it be for a fetish, to be counter-cultural (piss off mom and dad, etc.), or because they just want to try something new.
That being said, with all the stigma against homosexuality, I am not sure most homosexuals would actually like to be homosexual if they could help it.

Why not talk to one for a change? I mean, just like a human being. Might give you some insights other than what church has drilled into your brain. I mean, don't you even take a breather before typing away? Being homosexual just to piss off mom and dad or to try something new, and then without even a pause to let the contradictory ignorance take hold in the brain cells, claiming that they would change it if they could.

I stated most homosexuals would not choose to be gay if they could make that choice given all the cultural stigma..

So fuck off.

[Esquilax]

The government has forced people to bake cakes for celebrating things they do not support.....like the wedding of Adam and Steve.  Yet it allows others to abstain from baking cakes celebrating things they do not support.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-...complaint/

The complaint against this baker was dismissed.

Apparently gays get equal protection under the law.  You have to serve gays....but you don't have to serve homophobes.

It's really simple: if you're a baker who makes wedding cakes, you have to make wedding cakes for customers, not just those customers you pre-approve of. If you're a baker who makes hate speech cakes, you have to make hate speech cakes for customers, not just customers you pre-approve of. The Colorado baker did not make hate speech cakes, and is thus not discriminating by refusing to make any given hate speech cakes. Meanwhile, all of your bigot bakeries do make wedding cakes, and are seeking to not make wedding cakes for people they don't approve of, and are thus discriminating by deviating from their usual mode of business when faced with a customer they don't like.

It's not discrimination if I walk into a flower shop and am denied a cake of any sort, because flower shops don't sell cakes. It isn't discrimination if I walk into, say, a bakery that only makes car shaped cakes, and ask for a plane shaped cake, because that bakery sells a specific thing that is outside the purview of my request. It is discrimination if I walk into a wedding cake bakery and am refused a wedding cake based on who I am.

But then, understanding that simple thing would get in the way of you, ahem, "making the argument about us," because you can't refute the point, wouldn't it?

[thesummerqueen]

That is absolutely not at all what he said. Please go back and read it again and work on your comprehension.

[Polaris]

Sure there will be those who will be gay because they choose to do so whether it be for a fetish, to be counter-cultural (piss off mom and dad, etc.), or because they just want to try something new.

That being said, with all the stigma against homosexuality, I am not sure most homosexuals would actually like to be homosexual if they could help it.

No one chooses to be gay.  I'm amazed that anyone can be so ignorant as to think this.

It means that you consciously chose to be straight.  How much serious consideration did you give to being gay? 

I can choose to be gay.

What the fuck is with you people anyway? The Greeks had no issue with saying they chose to be gay....there was no stigma about a man having a little something on the side that was of the same sex. It's like it's such a sin, that people must lie that it is not a choice. That's fucking bullshit. Yes, it's not a choice for many. But for the rest of us, we have a fucking choice to do what we want.

I have given thought about homosexuality and sometimes still do, but the whole anal thing wasn't really for me.

[thesummerqueen]

It's not about "choosing" to be gay. Sexuality is a sliding spectrum. I mostly prefer men. I prefer some women. I suspect much of this has to do with my attraction towards people's personalities, because I prefer dominant ones. I don't "choose" who I'm attracted to. Believe me, I *still* don't see how Ben Affleck managed to be a heart throb.

[Silver]

I can choose to be gay.

Honestly, how can you choose to be gay?

[Polaris]

I can choose to be gay.

Honestly, how can you choose to be gay?

Simple. You A. say fuck off to all the Western societal norms and B. just cuddle up with someone of the same sex and see what happens.

[Silver]

Simple. You A. say fuck off to all the Western societal norms and B. just cuddle up with someone of the same sex and see what happens.

That makes no logical sense.