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If God sent your child to Hell.
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"Sometimes I'm confused by what I think is really obvious. But what I think is really obvious obviously isn't obvious..." - Michael Stipe
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a soul that turns away from god is a soul that turns away from god. but children would make it to heaven, babies definately get saved. if they have sense and there were choices that they could of made and they didnt choose god then yeh they would went to hell. god would of showed them mercy in hell depending on chances and ability. if you love your loved ones you will teach them about following the god of moses.

Mod edit, Becca:  Please don't attribute quotes to people who didn't say them.
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Geez..formatting dude. And from your only other post on the forum, I gather that your God just sends people to hell for not believing in him, regardless of how good of a person they are.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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If there is a god, he should send you to hell for bad quote placement and attribution. You and the MyBB dudes that made the new default reply boxes Big Grin
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(April 14, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: So let us for a moment imagine God is real, and a theist dies and goes to heaven. Now imagine 30 or so years later, the child of that theist, who ended up being an atheist, dies and gets sent to hell for his non-belief.

From now until the end of time your child, whom you cherished and adored from the moment they were born, whom you would literally give your own life for, will be tortured and tormented in ways that are incomprehensible to the mind. They will never escape, and God will never change his mind, so their suffering will be as eternal as your own afterlife. You will never see your own child again, and you know that every minute of every day, they are in indescribable agony.

My question is...what would theists think of the God who not only let this happen, but specifically planned it as part of his grand scheme for humanity? How would that effect your love for God and your trust in him? I am extremely curious to know.

Truly in the 'grand scheme' a child is not the off spring or 'piece/part' of you that we have come to believe them to be.. A child is the vessal that houses the next generation of 'living souls.' Which in essence are all of God's offspring/children not ours. our children in the grand scheme are our brother and sister souls when view through God's eyes, and our children are not apart of us/soul, in the same way as they are in life/through our body's DNA.

 If one loves God with all of His being, and his brother does not, or even worse hates God and His followers, then what does it matter if that brother was born in to your house hold in this life or in a ISIS house hold? Shouldn't God have final say as to which one of us receives his blessings and which ones do not?
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(May 22, 2015 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote:
(April 14, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: So let us for a moment imagine God is real, and a theist dies and goes to heaven. Now imagine 30 or so years later, the child of that theist, who ended up being an atheist, dies and gets sent to hell for his non-belief.

From now until the end of time your child, whom you cherished and adored from the moment they were born, whom you would literally give your own life for, will be tortured and tormented in ways that are incomprehensible to the mind. They will never escape, and God will never change his mind, so their suffering will be as eternal as your own afterlife. You will never see your own child again, and you know that every minute of every day, they are in indescribable agony.

My question is...what would theists think of the God who not only let this happen, but specifically planned it as part of his grand scheme for humanity? How would that effect your love for God and your trust in him? I am extremely curious to know.

Truly in the 'grand scheme' a child is not the off spring or 'piece/part' of you that we have come to believe them to be.. A child is the vessal that houses the next generation of 'living souls.' Which in essence are all of God's offspring/children not ours. our children in the grand scheme are our brother and sister souls when view through God's eyes, and our children are not apart of us/soul, in the same way as they are in life/through our body's DNA.

 If one loves God with all of His being, and his brother does not, or even worse hates God and His followers, then what does it matter if that brother was born in to your house hold in this life or in a ISIS house hold? Shouldn't God have final say as to which one of us receives his blessings and which ones do not?

So you're saying essentially you place the authority if God over the love of your own children.
This is exactly my problem with religion, or one of them.
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(May 22, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Iroscato Wrote:
(May 22, 2015 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote: Truly in the 'grand scheme' a child is not the off spring or 'piece/part' of you that we have come to believe them to be.. A child is the vessal that houses the next generation of 'living souls.' Which in essence are all of God's offspring/children not ours. our children in the grand scheme are our brother and sister souls when view through God's eyes, and our children are not apart of us/soul, in the same way as they are in life/through our body's DNA.

 If one loves God with all of His being, and his brother does not, or even worse hates God and His followers, then what does it matter if that brother was born in to your house hold in this life or in a ISIS house hold? Shouldn't God have final say as to which one of us receives his blessings and which ones do not?

So you're saying essentially you place the authority if God over the love of your own children.
This is exactly my problem with religion, or one of them.
That's the thing sport. They are not your Children. What you contribute to that being life is the genetic material that will die when that soul moves on to eternity. What moves on has nothing to do with you. That soul is the product of God. At best you may consider that being or Soul a brother or sister (if that even matters anymore.) So again "In The GRAND SCHEME Of Things" What does it matter if a kindred Spirit (literally, because the spirit/soul part that gets sent to heaven or hell is not of you and therefore is not a child of yours) So what does it matter if that Spirit/soul lives with you for a 20 or maybe 30 year span out of eternity? Let me rephrase: What if an ISIS member lived with you that long and after 30 years decided that he was going to blow up the next super bowl or Boston Marathon and machine gun down as many people as he could before they stopped him? Would you be one of those D-bag parents who thinks his d-bag kid can do no wrong no matter what kind of monster he turns out to be, ( Dzhokhar Tsarnaev) or will you Stand for what is right, and Stand aside when True Justice and Accountablity comes a knocking?

What gets me about your question is either you can not seem to fathom that you kid could be a monster deserving Hell, or the fact that the one judging will judge know ALL the facts, thoughts and deeds of our lives, leaving nothing to chance or guestimations.

Our final judgements will be complete and beyond fair, what's more we will know without doubt that our sentence is indeed just. Even if we are not fans of true justice, nor it's consenquence.
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Quote:They are not your Children.

Thanks for once again demonstrating that xtians are dumber than ice-cold shit.
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