I think he was referring to Robert E Lee.
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Another reason I agree with Hitchens.
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 (May 1, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think he was referring to Robert E Lee. Oh... Was he in any good kung-fu movies? 
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
Your biblical references against homosexuality have caused me so much emotional distress that I will take away your livelihood and an Oregon judge will impose damages of $135,000 on you.
Sick fucks.
 (May 1, 2015 at 1:00 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Your biblical references against homosexuality have caused me so much emotional distress that I will take away your livelihood and an Oregon judge will impose damages of $135,000 on you. God just told me the check's in the mail. He said to expect it before this generation passes. 
... yet Christians are the ones being persecuted.
 RE: Another reason I agree with Hitchens.
May 1, 2015 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2015 at 1:38 pm by Regina.)
Yes because homosexuality is the only "deathworthy" crime the bible mentions. They love just picking this one particular sin out.
Also I find that even when someone who is not religious is homophobic, it still comes from the inherent culture around them. It's a legacy of religion, like a psychological imprint that lingers even after the religion dies. It's also why misogyny still exists in the West despite religion losing it's grip. We inherit these mindsets from religion. Also I disagree with the idea that pre-Christian society was homophobic, despite the need to procreate. In cultures across every region of the world, you find a general tolerance and passiveness about homosexuality before The Abrahamic religions appear on the scene. The Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Celts, Egyptians, Middle Eastern cultures, East Asian cultures, pre-Columbian American cultures, all these people accepted it before the Bible was thumped over their heads. There's more than enough straight people to procreate to make up for the relatively small amount of gay people, and there always has been.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane" - sarcasm_only
"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie  Quote:Lee says he sees nothing wrong with the sign and was just quoting Leviticus 20:13, a scripture in the Bible. These assholes have no balls! They feel so compelled to let everyone know how they feel on their dumbass billboard, but when asked about it, the finger always gets pointed back to god. "That's what god said, it wasn't me." The fact they have to point their finger at god all the time means they must know at some level what they're saying is wrong. Take responsibility for what you say, or shut the hell up you bigoted pussies!
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 (May 1, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:Quote:Lee says he sees nothing wrong with the sign and was just quoting Leviticus 20:13, a scripture in the Bible. Yep just like gang minions the leader gets them to do the dirty work. "Just following orders". How sick of this God to pit you against other humans instead of taking that beef up with them directly. The worst part is that there is no god causing this to claim this, the sick part is people still believe in this garbage.  (May 1, 2015 at 11:19 am)Dystopia Wrote: "If" my parents didn't exist I wouldn't have been born. Any reason why your ifs should matter? You can find justifications for homophobia outside religion. My dad is an atheist and he justifies it with biology, procreation and "nature". His "justification" makes no sense. One often does things to prevent procreation (i.e., birth control), and also one often does things that are not, in themselves, helpful for procreation (e.g., kissing mouth to mouth). As for nature, many animal species engage in homosexual acts, so it is a very natural thing to do. My guess is, your father retained his homophobia from earlier religious belief, but since I do not know your father, that is merely a guess. His reasoning, though, is the purest bullshit, just like one hears from religious fanatics who attempt to justify their prejudices, which is why I suspect that that is the source of your father's "reasoning" on this subject. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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