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Dallas art depicting Mo attacked.
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And our dead animal taxidermy comb over moron Trump who spends all his time picking on liberals and selling climate change denial, thinks we shouldn't pick on Islam. FUCK YOU TRUMP.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/04/donald_t...socialflow
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#12
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(May 4, 2015 at 3:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote: And our dead animal taxidermy comb over moron Trump who spends all his time picking on liberals and selling climate change denial, thinks we shouldn't pick on Islam. FUCK YOU TRUMP.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/04/donald_t...socialflow

Let's have a draw the combover contest. 
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#13
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Yea lets draw Trump and send him the pics @realDonaldTrump on Twitter. I am horrible at photoshop but anyone who hates that asshat as much as I do feel free to post your pictures here or there.
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#14
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I don’t have to go over there and do it. I feel sorry for the young folks who will.

But we’ll have to go over there and spank IS real hard. A determination that we won’t allow them to have their caliphate and will crush it by force, even if this means civilian casualties. Just like crushing Germany in WWII. Then we’ll put IS’s leaders on trial and hang them for crimes against civilization just as we did with the top Nazis at Nuremberg. We can’t allow them to expand until they control all of Iraq and Syria and Libya. I’m guessing we’ll delay a long time, years, before we do anything about IS, but eventually our hand will be tipped and we won’t have a choice.

Somebody has to be on the moral high horse, the recriminations of the mealy-mouthed who worry we will sully our hands aside. We are better than they are this time, and we are entitled to execute righteous judgment against IS on behalf of the rest of the world, as the sole power willing and capable of doing so. The folks who run IS are not human beings. They are vicious beasts who deserve no better than extermination as a pestilence upon the world. You stop being a human being when you use a butcher knife to saw off a stranger's head. In most of the world, only serial killers do stuff like that.
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#15
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NO we are all human beings. What causes religious violence is in our species. is our ignorance of the fact that we defend gap filling more than we seek answers. We are right in the west to protect the right to blaspheme, but that does not make us a different species.

Blind faith, old comic books, blind worship of a utopia is always going to be our species enemy, no matter who sets up and protects something demanding it never be questioned.

I warn everyone reading this, whatever rightful objection we have to barbaric behavior no one should ever think they are above any range of human behavior.
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#16
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The problem of removing IS by force is that, sooner or later, something like it will return.
Religious fanaticism can only be combated with education... but is there any interest in educating the people in a muslim theocracy?
How can the rest of the world "convince" a theocracy to teach their populace about history and philosophy?
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#17
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Quote:But we’ll have to go over there and spank IS real hard.

Like we did with Iraq?


That worked out so well.
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(May 5, 2015 at 8:38 am)Brian37 Wrote: NO we are all human beings...

I think the IS enforcement crews forfeited their status as human when they began beheading Christians and other apostates to create their reign of terror. They can be treated as if they were a dangerous virus or cancer as far as I'm concerned. If, at a later time, they rethink what they're doing now, then they can be readmitted to the human race.

I don't feel the West has a special moral superiority entitling it to act as a world judge, so I'm reluctant to say we should do it with IS. Our regime changes and meddling in that region have never gone well in past, and probably won't go well this time either. But IS is just one of those things that can't be allowed to stand unchallenged, as Nazism under Hitler was. It has to be destroyed, with terms of unconditional surrender or death for its leadership. Perhaps a world court can decide at trial if their lives are to spared (life in prison) in the event of a guilty finding of crimes against humanity, but I think they should be held accountable and if it were my choice the hangman would pay them a visit.

Education of course helps; it was done in Germany after Hitler was gone. But we still had to get rid of Hitler first. I'm also not assuming we are "above" the possibility of barbarism ourselves; biologically we're the same species. If we do go that route one day, then I hope Europe or China would do the same to our dictators that I propose we do to IS's. There are certain kinds of government that can't be dealt with by peaceful diplomacy. Attempting diplomacy with IS will gain nothing, and likely embolden them to broaden their conquests into North Africa.
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(May 5, 2015 at 12:06 pm)Hatshepsut Wrote:
(May 5, 2015 at 8:38 am)Brian37 Wrote: NO we are all human beings...

I think the IS enforcement crews forfeited their status as human when they began beheading Christians and other apostates to create their reign of terror. They can be treated as if they were a dangerous virus or cancer as far as I'm concerned. If, at a later time, they rethink what they're doing now, then they can be readmitted to the human race.

I don't feel the West has a special moral superiority entitling it to act as a world judge, so I'm reluctant to say we should do it with IS. Our regime changes and meddling in that region have never gone well in past, and probably won't go well this time either. But IS is just one of those things that can't be allowed to stand unchallenged, as Nazism under Hitler was. It has to be destroyed, with terms of unconditional surrender or death for its leadership. Perhaps a world court can decide at trial if their lives are to spared (life in prison) in the event of a guilty finding of crimes against humanity, but I think they should be held accountable and if it were my choice the hangman would pay them a visit.

Education of course helps; it was done in Germany after Hitler was gone. But we still had to get rid of Hitler first. I'm also not assuming we are "above" the possibility of barbarism ourselves; biologically we're the same species. If we do go that route one day, then I hope Europe or China would do the same to our dictators that I propose we do to IS's. There are certain kinds of government that can't be dealt with by peaceful diplomacy. Attempting diplomacy with IS will gain nothing, and likely embolden them to broaden their conquests into North Africa.

Who said the west should play moral judge? Think evolution, think about progress, what has gotten humanity to this point? The west, while not perfect by any stretch, reflects more of what evolution does. It plays more to our evolutionary sense of empathy, rather than the dark side of our evolution, which unfortunately works as well, which is dominance and force.

Who said we should play nice to all governments? It is a double edge sword. No we cant play the world's police, but we cannot isolate ourselves either. The fascism that has existed in human history of all labels is nothing humans should aspire to. Which is also why I call out Christians who attempt to write bible based laws in the west.
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#20
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I can't think of one square foot of Middle-eastern land worth one pint of American blood.

If the locals don't like being beheaded, let them rise up.

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