Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet

[Ace]

If polygamy is accepted then polygamy is accepted..whats the problem?  If polygamy were acceptable (it isn;t?) then you';d what....go get some extra husbands?  If incest is accepted then incest is accepted, whats the problem?  You'd diddle your siblings?  

Why stop there? Keep going, keep going, you'll get there. You want to make the line of relationships should be accepted and which should not be. You say no if the line is only drawn straight  and narrow for hederalsexual couple. The argument has been that it should not only be fore them but for us as well, regardless if they want it or not.

You want the line to be felxable, were it accepts you, and you are ok if other's like polygamy and incest that you don't mind, be allowed in as well. But, when the one's you don't want wants in,  you now take the position of the hetero position from the begging and what to draw the line and say "No more, only us." But why? Who are you to say no and why should the other think about what you want or like into account? You had no problem with telling the hetero, "tough shit!" "What you want does not mean shit to me!" So why can the other sexual preferences say the say to you? "Tough shit!" " What you want does not mean shit to me!"

No, this line of acceptation a is either felxable or it is not, like they say you can't have it both ways.

You say well the difference is age of conceit , yet I already presented you with 3 different bills that are trying to be passed in some states and that the federal government has give legally protection to pedo's,(under a hate crime bill name after a gay man who was better and killed at that) and neither took into account of the age of conceit.

[Ace]

What are those court rulings supposed to prove? Statutory rape remains a crime

WOW you consider a 10 year old's sex crime as statutory rape?? List I checked puberty starts at around 11 or 12.

Statutory rape remains a crime, and for good reasons.

Ummm I think you need to read the link because that is not at all what they are saying. IT IS UNDOING STATUTORY RAPE!!!!

[Ace]

The age of consent is lower, but what the fuck is wrong with that?  That's not endorsing pedophilia.

No, that is not what was said. I said that the age of consent in France use to be lower and has now been risen. Not that France has lowered its age of consent.  There is a difference in what you read and have assumed to be the meaning of my statement. It shows in your answer. (Where I said in my post was placed in affect in France do the it’s arranged marriages that has been occurring among the Muslim migrants that are in the nation)

Teens have sex.  I was young when I had sex for the first time.  It wasn't that long ago that the age of consent int his country was much younger.  In fact it was younger than 12.  Gay marriage wasn't legal then.

Yea, way to make this about you, but hey that seems to be very common way people think and argue in this country, which is very bad.

First, not everyone is like you. The issue is not that teens are fucking, ok. IT IS ABOUT KIDS GETTING MARRED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH OLDER THEN THEM!!!

Unlike here and what you did or personally think, parents there actual want to see the kids not be married off in the early teens and become mothers at the age of 14. Many parents what to seek that their kid gets an education, go to university, get a job, travel, before they settle down to start a family.

Because as I said in my post,   France has been dealing with large numbers of young girls, and to some extent boys, being placed in arranged marriages or seeking marriage at the age for 14. Most are among the migrant population that is in the country, but not all are occurring among them. France has enacted this change of law about 2 to 3 months ago, In addition, gay marriage was and still is legal at the time this issue was occurring, and the new age of consent law put into effect.

Funny you bring up Germany, because Germany doesn't allow gay marriage!

Correct, Germany has not legalized same sex marriages. However, in 2001, Germany had put into law the registered life partnerships (Eingetragene Lebenspartnerschaft) for same-sex couples

Two psychologists in Canada?  HOLY FUCK!  Alert the presses.

WOW REALLY??

That is what you interrupted was the issue when you read that? Are you joking here?  

This issue is not that two damn psychologists were speaking! The ISSUE IS that CANADA'S PARLIAMENT (like the U.S. congress) WAS HAVING A HEARING ON THE ISSUE OF  PEDOPHILIA!!!!!!

Call me when it's actually legalized in these places,

Again, I said there is a push to try to legalize pedophilia! And that is why to assume that pedophilia could be accepted is not such a faraway possibility. Umm , you did read what I  posted right?

So basically you want to prevent people from getting married because it MIGHT do something.  Too fucking bad.

Remember that “Too fucking bad” when shit does happen .  

Someone clearly hasn't seen enough Samuel L Jackson movies.

Seen his movies, yes. Good Actor, very under rated. Is it enough, not sure because I do not know what it is that you would consider is enough? Either was not getting the reason for your statement about the act is for here

I'd definitely vote to take away tax exemption status of churches.  It's about damn time for that.  I wouldn't outlaw them just because something MIGHT happen because I'm not a fucking idiot who's worried about what might happen if people do things that I don't agree with.

Hahaha just what I been saying no I am not for gay marriage or marriage in general for that matter. For many reason, but one of them being that it is a tax exemption for those who are marred only!!
Never even said that I was for outlawing gays.

Not to mention that you can fight Pedophilia without fighting gay marriage.  To say otherwise is fucking stupid.

Totally agree and am doing so. However, that is not what is being argued as the issue. The push for RECOGNITION AND LEGALIZATION that is occurring with the aiding of the Supreme Court’s ruling for same sex marriage is the argument and disagreed with.

"Oh, no.  If we allow gay marriage, we might start allowing pedophilia.  Nevermind that one does not require the other, because that'd be stupid.  I can't just fight pedophilia because I'm a fucking moron."

Oh, do say that about you self cause I never said you were a fucking moron. I don’t know you personally to make such disrespectful comment about someone I don’t know.

[Divinity]

Oh wow, they had a fucking hearing about pedophilia. Did they legalize it? FUCK NO. So you can shut the fuck up when it comes to saying if we allow gay marriage it opens the door to Pedophiles. Because you don't have a goddamn argument for it.

I'm hoping you're just a troll and not a fucking moron. Either way you're only worth arguing with in hopes of changing the minds of other closed-minded people who think "OMG GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED WILL LEAD TO THE LEGALIZATION OF PEDOPHILIA" because that's what they were raised to believe by morons.

[Longhorn]

WOW you consider a 10 year old's sex crime as statutory rape?? List I checked puberty starts at around 11 or 12.

What. No really. What are you saying? ._.

Statutory rape is rape of a minor. Are you saying 10yos are not minors? ._.

Ummm I think you need to read the link because that is not at all what they are saying. IT IS UNDOING STATUTORY RAPE!!!!

NO IT'S NOT!!! IT'S A COUPLE RULINGS IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS!!! IF YOU BUGGER A KID YOU STILL GO TO JAIL!!! WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!!!!

[Ace]

[quote='Neimenovic' pid='1034843' dateline='1440862903']
What. No really. What are you saying? ._.
Statutory rape is rape of a minor. Are you saying 10yos are not minors? ._.
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Statutory rape is just the rape/sex with a minor. There is a big difference between Statutory Rape, Rape, and Child Molestation.

Statutory rape  . .  .Statutory: (required, permitted, or enacted by statute) means you can not have sex because of age. Not that an actual rape occurred.

Statutory rape is given the second term "rape" because it is argued that, even a teenager, dose not hold the rational understanding to full consent with anyone that is legally an adult and therefor "trick or coerced"  was used into having sex.

Statutory rape in other words is  "underage consensual" sex with a teenager between the age of 13 to 18 (depending on the state).

It is not rape of a minor or rape like you think, because both party agree, but  one of the party members  is underage (underage consent) . . It is statutory rape because of the age of the person.

If it is accrual rape then it is not statutory, regardless of age. It fall under the full charge of rape.  

Rape:  is force against one's well in being penetrated, vaginal or anally with a foreign object (sometime put under the charge of Sodomy depending on the state.) or  forced to engaged in intercourse.

Any sexual act including intercourse with a minor between the ages of 0-12 is considered child molestation. Not statutory rape.

[quote='Neimenovic' pid='1034843' dateline='1440862903']

NO IT'S NOT!!! IT'S A COUPLE RULINGS IN SPECIFIC SITUATIONS!!! IF YOU BUGGER A KID YOU STILL GO TO JAIL!!! [/quotes]

Nnnoooo, that is not what it means and rulings are not just for individual cases. Each one effects future rulings that deal with the same issue.  Ummm  you do know what precedent in law means right and how it effect/works?

[quote='Neimenovic' pid='1034843' dateline='1440862903']
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!!!!
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I have notes this in America, that many think that exclamation points and all cap letters means shouting. But it does not just mean that.
!!! means exasperation or indicate forceful utterance or strong feeling or distinctive indication of major significance, interest, or contrast
All CAP's is also like an emphases of the word or meaning.  Like Oh my God.

How you can tell the difference? I always thought that one knows because the could know  know who the person is talking is and how the express them self or other words that or in the sentences are disrespectful to the read.

[Ace]

Oh wow, they had a fucking hearing about pedophilia.

Umm, You do know what a parliament hearing does right?

 Did they legalize it?  FUCK NO.

That is one of the powers that a parliamentary hearing can do

 So you can shut the fuck up when it comes to saying if we allow gay marriage it opens the door to Pedophiles.  Because you don't have a goddamn argument for it.

Pardon me, but I do not remember every asking for your portion to post on this site what topics I wish to post about. Last I check this thread, which did start as a topic for same sex argument that was occurring at the Supreme Court, However, later it did change to "what center issue can occur because of Same sex marriage. So I think I am in the right place to discuss this topic. If you wish not to talk about the topic then it might be correct in that you should look for one's that do not talk about the issue. But whatever you wish, hey stay here and talk about something different if you wish. I know I can discuss several different topics at once.  

That I have no argument, interesting because I used actual laws,  court case, hearings, for my argument.
Unlike those oppose to my argument have not presented even their side, or have basically said "it is just because" or flat out refuse to to even given an objective argument to my position.

Now if my argument is not an argument,then may I ask how is "yours"? Hell, how can it even be call an argument when you have not even presented or attempted one?

I'm hoping you're just a troll and not a fucking moron.

Nope, sorry not a troll or a moron. Just a fellow human being, as I consider you to also be one.

Either way you're only worth arguing with in hopes of changing the minds of other closed-minded people who think "OMG GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED WILL LEAD TO THE LEGALIZATION OF PEDOPHILIA" because that's what they were raised to believe by morons.

Umm ok. Don't really know what to say about that. But I am always for a debate/argument.

[Lucanus]

[Longhorn]

So....adults can now legally have sex with children? Is that what you're saying?

And it's funny that you should make the connection to gay marriage, because everything you linked happened much before the SCOTUS decision......

[Losty]