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Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 27, 2008 at 8:25 pm
As before atheists/believers,feel free.
ANOTHER REASON.
God is a bad influence.
Recent significant event...the probably illegal invasion of Iraq.
Bush claimed " god " told him to invade.
Blair ( very coy about his faith when British Prime Minister ) was famously caught out by Michael Parkinson on a chat show that " someone else " i.e. " god " influenced his decision to support Bush.
Obvious question is how happy are we that the president of the usa and the pm of the uk talk to their imaginary friend to seek approval for illegal acts of aggresion?
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 27, 2008 at 9:05 pm
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You are going to blame the stupidity of Government on God? It always kind of seemed odd to me when Atheist, who are generally political, hate religion so much when in fact Religion wouldn't have had much power without politics. They often work hand in hand.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 11:16 am
(November 27, 2008 at 9:05 pm)Daystar Wrote: You are going to blame the stupidity of Government on God? It always kind of seemed odd to me when Atheist, who are generally political, hate religion so much when in fact Religion wouldn't have had much power without politics. They often work hand in hand.
Daystar,read my post again. I say God is a bad influence. This thing that probably doesn't exist still manages to have influence over stupid politicians, or more accurately, politicians infected with religious faith.
Using the god card affords them some ease of conscience when they give the orders that result in death and destruction on a massive scale.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 11:23 am
(November 28, 2008 at 11:16 am)bozo Wrote: Daystar,read my post again. I say God is a bad influence. This thing that probably doesn't exist still manages to have influence over stupid politicians, or more accurately, politicians infected with religious faith.
Using the god card affords them some ease of conscience when they give the orders that result in death and destruction on a massive scale.
Deus Vult! Latin God wills it. The rallying cry of the first crusade. To say that God is a bad influence implies that God in some bad way influenced them and that isn't true. If you had said King David was a bad influence because he once went to war without God having instructed to him to do so - that would have been accurate. David was punished for that by God and so God was not influential to Bush or Blair.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 12:08 pm
(November 28, 2008 at 11:23 am)Daystar Wrote: (November 28, 2008 at 11:16 am)bozo Wrote: Daystar,read my post again. I say God is a bad influence. This thing that probably doesn't exist still manages to have influence over stupid politicians, or more accurately, politicians infected with religious faith.
Using the god card affords them some ease of conscience when they give the orders that result in death and destruction on a massive scale.
Deus Vult! Latin God wills it. The rallying cry of the first crusade. To say that God is a bad influence implies that God in some bad way influenced them and that isn't true. If you had said King David was a bad influence because he once went to war without God having instructed to him to do so - that would have been accurate. David was punished for that by God and so God was not influential to Bush or Blair.
Daystar, try telling Bush and Blair.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Here's an interesting comparison: I've never really liked football or rather I don't understand how people get so passionate about it and now having read this I can see it's responsible for some evil:
' Sick soccer fans have been plaguing Spurs manager Harry Redknapp with vile phone calls- saying they hope he and his family will be killed in a car crash.'- The Sun 28th November (not my paper I hasten to add).
These sicko retards are displaying the same 'hatred' and bigotry in relation to something they feel passionately about, although in this case for a non religious/political cause.
Of course it's not the football to blame, but rather people's reactions driven by emotion.
Bozo, you know fine well 'god' has nothing to do with Bush and Blair's going into Iraq. They have used Him to prop up or validate their accountability. The things that drive men like them are power and money.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 5:07 pm
(November 28, 2008 at 1:55 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Bozo, you know fine well 'god' has nothing to do with Bush and Blair's going into Iraq. They have used Him to prop up or validate their accountability. The things that drive men like them are power and money.
Interesting- you point out yourself a huge problem with religion. Bush was able to use (among other things) Christianity to rally many americans to support his war on "terror." But I have to ask myself- what does Bush really believe? His public persona, at least, strongly believes in god, and I personally wouldn't be surprised if he bought into his own story.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 5:33 pm
If God did exist there are even better reasons to despise him just going on his word the holy Bible.
Read the O.T. and you will quickly discover that God is the following:
Dictator
Megalomaniacal
Murderer
Vain
Vicious
A liar
He loves to play games with peoples lives to test their faith.(Some games are deadly and harsh)
He hates all things on this Earth that bring pleasure to man.
I could do this forever but after pointing this out for so many years it becomes quite a bore after awhile.
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existence )
November 28, 2008 at 5:40 pm
(November 28, 2008 at 5:07 pm)lukec Wrote: (November 28, 2008 at 1:55 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Bozo, you know fine well 'god' has nothing to do with Bush and Blair's going into Iraq. They have used Him to prop up or validate their accountability. The things that drive men like them are power and money.
Interesting- you point out yourself a huge problem with religion. Bush was able to use (among other things) Christianity to rally many americans to support his war on "terror." But I have to ask myself- what does Bush really believe? His public persona, at least, strongly believes in god, and I personally wouldn't be surprised if he bought into his own story.
Luke, people like Bush will use anything that will help them accomplish their aims, or so it seems. I'm sure he does believe in God etc and does think he has God's backing. So do all the other nutters...... 
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RE: Reasons to despise " god " ( in the almost zero possibility of he/she/its existen
November 28, 2008 at 8:12 pm
(November 27, 2008 at 9:05 pm)Daystar Wrote: You are going to blame the stupidity of Government on God? It always kind of seemed odd to me when Atheist, who are generally political, hate religion so much when in fact Religion wouldn't have had much power without politics. They often work hand in hand. Yes, they do indeed often work hand in hand. Thats one of the problems. Politics is often a big enough mess on its own. Its a much bigger mess with religion. We don't need creationist presidents or prime ministers! Its not good.
Yes of course its less bad if a president/prime minister is a moderate christian/jew or whatever religion he/she is. But religion as a whole is a bad influence as it is delusional and can give cover to the more dogmatic theists.
The problem with moderately religious is who's side are they on? Obviously not atheists because we don't believe there is a God. But are they on the fundamentalists' side because they're both religious? Or do they simply be neutral and cut themselves off and be on their own side? Or they try and be diplomatic? What do they do? What choice to make?
That's the problem. Religion as a whole is a very bad influence. And when people in power are religious that can cause problems.
But of course if they are dogmatic fundamentalists thats an awful lot worse.
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