Stump the Christian?

[Faith No More]

How can I corner, of course with my words, Christians and make them feel they have no choice but admit to rethinking their position or part of their positions when it comes to the bible or their god? I usually go fishing online at conservative news sites like Breitbart News Network. I'll click on a story or headline, look down at the comments and either look for key words that Christians use or post a stimulating comment, which they would of course feel the need to correct me or defend their so called faith. Is there any tools or creative weapons of reason and logic that I can use to stump them?

If you think you can change the mind of anyone posting on a site like Breitbart, you are way too idealistic.  The reality is that these hardline conservatives don't change their mind with new evidence.  They just dig their heels in deeper and insist that blue is red.  

2000-2008 was an era in which conservatives got to demonstrate whether or not their principles would be effective, and it nearly brought our country to its knees.  Yet they still sit around claiming we just need to be more conservative and commie socialists like Obama are the real problem.  You can't change a mind like that.

[Longhorn]

(*Southern Europe)

It was a test. You passed!

Where's my bananana muffin?

Well, we welcome brothers from Tennessee with open arms

(*Southern Europe)

South Eastern from my geographical perspective. With Sarajevo being the deathbed of our colonial age.

goddamn Austrians, get off my peninsula!!
kidding, kidding, come over any time

[abaris]

goddamn Austrians, get off my peninsula!!
kidding, kidding, come over any time

Already was there. Once in 1984 before the olympics and once after the war.

[SteveII]

How can I corner, of course with my words, Christians and make them feel they have no choice but admit to rethinking their position or part of their positions when it comes to the bible or their god? I usually go fishing online at conservative news sites like Breitbart News Network. I'll click on a story or headline, look down at the comments and either look for key words that Christians use or post a stimulating comment, which they would of course feel the need to correct me or defend their so called faith. Is there any tools or creative weapons of reason and logic that I can use to stump them?

If you're disrespectful and go for the shock value (like many in this forum), you will be dismissed out of hand and be another example of the "new atheist" that think that their ideas are somehow new, everyone else is stupid, and mockery and ridicule is the best tool (as Dawkins encourages) to accomplish the enlightenment of the masses. 


I will caution you. If you ask a good question of an intelligent Christian that he/she cannot answer, you may just end up helping them. If they go research the issue, they will learn that the question has been asked and answered before. So, you may be inadvertently and indirectly educating Christians. BTW, several of you on this forum have served me in this way, so...thanks!

If you want to be an effective atheist evangelist, you will have to know what Christianity teaches FROM Christian sources. If you get your information of what the Bible teaches or what Christians believe from forums like this, it will be very clear very fast you do not understand what it is you are attacking and again be dismissed or waste time running down  tangents. 

[abaris]

If you're disrespectful and go for the shock value (like many in this forum), you will be dismissed out of hand and be another example of the "new atheist" that think that their ideas are somehow new, everyone else is stupid, and mockery and ridicule is the best tool (as Dawkins encourages) to accomplish the enlightenment of the masses. 

You won't find me on a christian forum, since I don't feel the need to be a missionary. But if a christian comes here offering unsolicited advice, I see no reason to hold back. It's on the same lines as JWs knocking on the door. I didn't ask for their visit and if you're honest, there's quite a distinction between christian boards and this one. Here you can say pretty much anything without getting banned.

[FatAndFaithless]

Plus..dunno where Dawkins says ridicule is the best way to discuss religion?

[SteveII]

Plus..dunno where Dawkins says ridicule is the best way to discuss religion?

Richard Dawkins at the 2012 Reason Rally in DC. From the Wikipedia article on the event:

• Keynote speaker Richard Dawkins spoke about the differences between the US and the UK, which does not have separation between church and state. "The American Constitution is a precious treasure, the envy of the world". He praised the size of the crowd at the rally calling it a "magnificent and inspiring sight". He said he believes that this rally, in hindsight, will be seen as a tipping point that is "not far away" when "so many people will have come out [as atheists] that 'I can come out too'... we are far more numerous than anybody realizes." Reason to Dawkins means "basing your life on evidence and on logic, which is how you deduce the consequences."[22] He encouraged attendees to confront believers regarding what he called their "most absurd" beliefs (e.g., transsubstantiation), stating: "Mock them, ridicule them in public. Don't fall for the convention that we're all too polite to talk about religion. Religion makes specific claims about the Universe which need to be substantiated and challenged."[20][23][24][25]
  

Dawkins doesn't seem know enough about religion to engage with it on a more intelligent level (or is it that these "most absurd" beliefs are beneath him). So it seems that the "far more numerous than anybody realizes" 2-8% of the world's population who identify themselves as atheists are to "mock them, ridicule them in public" the other 92-98% until they yield to the "evidence and logic". 

[FatAndFaithless]

Okay.

[Esquilax]

I will caution you. If you ask a good question of an intelligent Christian that he/she cannot answer, you may just end up helping them. If they go research the issue, they will learn that the question has been asked and answered before. So, you may be inadvertently and indirectly educating Christians. BTW, several of you on this forum have served me in this way, so...thanks!

Why would you need to caution anybody on this? Education is the goal, not an unintended consequence.

[Longhorn]

Eeeeeewe, education!! Get it off, get it off!!