Have I misunderstood Libertarianism?

[Tiberius]

If there are no tax breaks, there is no incentive to donate money.

What kind of humans do you live with? Charity is done for the sake of being good, at least it is where I come from.

Evidence for that?

Evidence for people giving more if they can afford to give more? Again, human kindness, our compassion, our mindset to always try to do good things. I don't think it's any coincidence that so many multi-millionaires are philanthropists.

[Eilonnwy]

People can be good and charitable, and people can be greedy dicks. I wouldn't want to have the general well-being of our poor be left to how charitable a person is feeling.

Especially when most people who give to charity give it to churches who in turn make beautiful cathedrals and molest little boys.

[leo-rcc]

Charity is done for the sake of being good, at least it is where I come from.

And you know this how?

Evidence for people giving more if they can afford to give more? Again, human kindness, our compassion, our mindset to always try to do good things.

That sounds like more assertions, not evidence.

I don't think it's any coincidence that so many multi-millionaires are philanthropists.

Yeah, because they know that they can get better tax breaks that way, their accountant told them. Sure some will do it out of the kindness out of their hearts, but that sounds to me a much to volatile method of getting funds for problems that are systematic.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

The most generous people I've met are invariably those who have the least.

In my opinion,to be morally praiseworthy ,generosity needs to include sacrifice. For the wealthy,philanthropy seems be a matter of good manners and social obligation.

Bis dat qui cito dat (anon)

[Violet]

People can be good and charitable, and people can be greedy dicks. I wouldn't want to have the general well-being of our poor be left to how charitable a person is feeling.

Especially when most people who give to charity give it to churches who in turn make beautiful cathedrals and molest little boys.

I've been wondering... is it exclusively little boys? I can't see why it would be... but is there any evidence that they are not alone targeted?

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Charity is done for the sake of being good, at least it is where I come from.

Charity is often done for the purpose of politics and reputation. It gives them more political cards if and when their ethics are called into question.

Evidence for people giving more if they can afford to give more? Again, human kindness, our compassion, our mindset to always try to do good things.

If so, then whence come criminals?

I don't think it's any coincidence that so many multi-millionaires are philanthropists.

Yeah, because they know that they can get better tax breaks that way, their accountant told them. Sure some will do it out of the kindness out of their hearts, but that sounds to me a much to volatile method of getting funds for problems that are systematic.

Often this.

[Eilonnwy]

Saerules, it's not all boys, as far as I know, but it is overwhelmingly boys because the abuse cases mostly center around alter servers and for the longest time, only boys were allowed to be alter services. That stuff got changed in the 90s church by church, but most sex abuse scandals that we hear about now occurred before then. The parish I grew up in was a victim of Father Geoghan but by the time I became a altar server, (And I was the first and only female altar server for the parish at the time) he was no longer there.

[downbeatplumb]

Saerules, it's not all boys, as far as I know, but it is overwhelmingly boys because the abuse cases mostly center around alter servers and for the longest time, only boys were allowed to be alter services. That stuff got changed in the 90s church by church, but most sex abuse scandals that we hear about now occurred before then. The parish I grew up in was a victim of Father Geoghan but by the time I became a altar server, (And I was the first and only female altar server for the parish at the time) he was no longer there.

Next wave of sex abuse cases are incoming and yes its the girlies.

http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=623348

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If there are no tax breaks, there is no incentive to donate money.

What kind of humans do you live with? Charity is done for the sake of being good, at least it is where I come from.

Evidence for that?

Evidence for people giving more if they can afford to give more? Again, human kindness, our compassion, our mindset to always try to do good things. I don't think it's any coincidence that so many multi-millionaires are philanthropists.

Some rich people get rich by being mean arseholes.

I speak from familial experience.