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Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm (This post was last modified: June 17, 2015 at 10:39 pm by Esquilax. Edit Reason: Repairing video tag. )
(June 16, 2015 at 6:52 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I don't know, Randy; Why were they staring up at the sky?

Five minutes, Becca. That's all it will take you to watch this video.

Lots of photos and the story is laid out for you.



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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:38 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 8:05 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(June 14, 2015 at 10:26 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Ah, but Jenny, don't you see it? God planned for you to drop the money out of your pocket without realizing it so that you would find it later.

Simple, huh? [Image: whackado.gif]

You are being sarcastic right?

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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:42 pm
(June 16, 2015 at 7:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote:
(June 16, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: That's what former atheists who convert to Christianity typically do...they study the story first...and come to believe that it is reasonable to believe.

So, yes, of course there's "real" evidence, Jenny. I can give you a dozen reasons to believe that the NT is historically reliable. Tim O'Neill gave the forum reasons why Jesus is not a myth. There are solid reasons to think that the resurrection really happened.

The problem is that none of this is "real" in your opinion. Other folks, equally skeptical at first (and equally intelligent), have arrived at a different conclusion.

You have yet to provide evidence showing the NT is historically reliable.  I find it just about as reliable as Tim O'Neill which is not very.  I'll repeat myself:  I'm pretty sure a man named Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and preached in and around Galilee, and that he was crucified in Jerusalem.   I'm also sure Paul lived, started churches and preached and that he wrote some of the letters attributed to him.  But the rest of the details are not the least bit reliable for reasons explained to you over and over in your various threads.

Jenny-

I do appreciate the fact that you are more open to those bits than most here. You could get into quite an argument with a few others in this very forum over some of your beliefs.
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:45 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 12:01 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(June 14, 2015 at 10:26 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Ah, but Jenny, don't you see it? God planned for you to drop the money out of your pocket without realizing it so that you would find it later.

Simple, huh? [Image: whackado.gif]

How many kids died of starvation in Africa while your gawd was playing "Easter Egg" with Jenny's spare change?!?

More importantly, how many of those kids were welcomed into eternity by God the moment they died?

All of them.

I hope the same can be said for us one day.
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:48 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 1:08 am)Neimenovic Wrote:
(June 16, 2015 at 6:01 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Well, I was about to address the problem of evil which is what you first two or three questions are about, but then I read again and saw the question I have highlighted above. Which am I supposed to be answering?

They relate to more or less the same thing. Adress the bolded part. Present the line of reasoning that led you from a creator to Yahweh to catholic Yahweh.

I don't mind discussing the connections...but I'm really trying to wind this thread up to avoid having too many active at once.

I said what I wanted to say in the OP, and I've entertained some discussion, etc. but I told Becca that I'm wrapping this up, and I am.
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:48 pm (This post was last modified: June 17, 2015 at 10:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
More important to you, maybe...you fucking jackal.
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 10:45 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(June 17, 2015 at 12:01 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: How many kids died of starvation in Africa while your gawd was playing "Easter Egg" with Jenny's spare change?!?

More importantly, how many of those kids were welcomed into eternity by God the moment they died?

All of them.

I hope the same can be said for us one day.

You're simply incapable of admitting that you believe, but don't really know, many of the things you assert as true, aren't you?  Is it pride, stupidity, or some mixture of the two that causes you to behave this way?
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 7:48 am)Tonus Wrote:
Randy Carson Wrote:I think God knows exactly when to play his cards with each one of us personally.
Do you think that he does that?  That he puts the knowledge within reach of each of us on some personalized level, thus giving us all a shot at salvation?

Absolutely.
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:53 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 10:45 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(June 17, 2015 at 12:01 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: How many kids died of starvation in Africa while your gawd was playing "Easter Egg" with Jenny's spare change?!?

More importantly, how many of those kids were welcomed into eternity by God the moment they died?

All of them.

I hope the same can be said for us one day.

Indeed - I do hope to be able to say one day, that you died of starvation, you sanctimonious fool. Who are you to decide what happened to those children? You're making sh*t up in order to make light of human suffering. 
Despicable...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Atheism, Evidence and the God-of-the-Gaps
June 17, 2015 at 10:56 pm
(June 17, 2015 at 10:50 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(June 17, 2015 at 10:45 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: More importantly, how many of those kids were welcomed into eternity by God the moment they died?

All of them.

I hope the same can be said for us one day.

You're simply incapable of admitting that you believe, but don't really know, many of the things you assert as true, aren't you?  Is it pride, stupidity, or some mixture of the two that causes you to behave this way?

It's probably a mixture that keeps me posting in this forum.
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