Why are we here?

[downbeatplumb]

Why are we here? because were here, roll the bones.

Kudos to the first person to get the reference.

[Godscreated]

You're making a claim that you know something and yet haven't brought evidence that it's true, please do so.

If there is no god, then what I say must be true.  A god is illogical and impossible, then there is no god, therefore I am right.

That's hogwash, try to bring something an intelligent person would.

GC

[Godscreated]

Actually I was speaking to those who posted before me, you all have it made compared to the ones you've mentioned, I can understand them questioning. What I can't understand are those who question why stop short of using their lives to help others, to me this is a great purpose.

How can you possibly know who here helps or does not help others?
Boru

I did not say people here did not help others, you're trying to put words in my mouth. I was talking about people in general. I will say that those who had responded to this thread before I did showed a lack of anything resembling care.

GC

[Godscreated]

Then live with no purpose, it's your life.

GC

The only purpose worth having in life is the purpose we give it.

You can give purpose to your life, I have no doubt of that. However God will give greater purpose to one's life, I know this personally.

GC

[TubbyTubby]

The only purpose worth having in life is the purpose we give it.

You can give purpose to your life, I have no doubt of that. However God will give greater purpose to one's life, I know this personally.

GC

I can't wait to see the disappointment on your face when you come face to face with Allah and he wants to know why you read the wrong book.

[Pyrrho]

You can give purpose to your life, I have no doubt of that. However God will give greater purpose to one's life, I know this personally.

GC

I can't wait to see the disappointment on your face when you come face to face with Allah and he wants to know why you read the wrong book.

[Godscreated]

No one has to stumble into eternal torment, God made an easy, simple way to walk away from that fate through His Son.  You want t work with an assumption that God wouldn't have anything to work with but His desire, God answers this question in the NT by saying He desires no one to enter eternal punishment.

That's my point: if god wants everyone to be saved, then we're better off having him decide our fates.  Otherwise we are at risk, regardless of how "easy" it is to be saved using his son's sacrifice.  After all, how easy it is depends on who you ask, and many denominations have different rules regarding how we can be saved.  Why risk it?  Think about it: when it comes to making the best decision on anything, who would you trust: yourself, or god?

Or put another way: if god made that decision, everyone would be saved.  But because he does not, billions of people will not be saved.  Which is the better outcome?

What if everyone doesn't want to be saved, this forum is full of that type of people. Is it fair to them for God to drag them into heaven kicking and screaming, He would be putting them in an eternal punishment by doing so, He has a place reserved for those who do not want to be with Him. God's haven will be a place of eternal happiness, with people who do not want to be there it wouldn't be the place He promises.

Being saved can't be God's choice, his desire yes, being saved must be a commitment of a persons heart. Parents may have wanted their child to be something the child's heart wasn't into, so the child became what it desired, if the child had gone the way the parents desired the child wouldn't have been happy. So why should God force someone into salvation if that person doesn't want it. The question you should ask the atheist here, do they want God to save them so they can spend eternity with Him, hopefully they will be honest.

GC

[Godscreated]

You can give purpose to your life, I have no doubt of that. However God will give greater purpose to one's life, I know this personally.

GC

I can't wait to see the disappointment on your face when you come face to face with Allah and he wants to know why you read the wrong book.

I wouldn't worry myself about that if I were you. If Allah happened to be real you want make it before him.

GC

[FatAndFaithless]

Is it fair to them for God to drag them into heaven kicking and screaming, He would be putting them in an eternal punishment by doing so,

So Heaven would be eternal punishment for someone who doesn't want to go there. Okay.

He has a place reserved for those who do not want to be with Him.

And isn't this place also supposed to be eternal punishment?

[Simon Moon]

The point is we get to live a life and decide what to do with it. God does know, we do not, If we do not get to live our life how can we be judged for it? If God put us in heaven or hell without us living life He makes the decision.

GC

Does everything happen according to God's plan?

Does anything happen that is a surprise to God?