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RE: divine logic?
June 22, 2015 at 5:53 pm
The second part of this post is to now ask a religious person to not believe or embrace but to merely acknowledge that there is the very slightest chance that it was written and inspired by man alone.
Statistically, that possibility MUST exist. Prove to us that you are thinking clearly and not a product of your indoctrination. Impress us with your impartialness.
Then I'll get to part 3!
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RE: divine logic?
June 22, 2015 at 7:25 pm
(June 22, 2015 at 5:53 pm)ignoramus Wrote: The second part of this post is to now ask a religious person to not believe or embrace but to merely acknowledge that there is the very slightest chance that it was written and inspired by man alone.
Statistically, that possibility MUST exist. Prove to us that you are thinking clearly and not a product of your indoctrination. Impress us with your impartialness.
Then I'll get to part 3!
Refer back, just one post before yours ignoramus, and there's the brilliant answers you shall receive from other religious people. They don't give straight answers like you and I do.
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RE: divine logic?
June 22, 2015 at 7:27 pm
(June 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 22, 2015 at 7:18 am)ignoramus Wrote: Guys, from an ignoramus who hasn't had the misfortune of reading and studying the bible to the nth degree, can someone please answer me this.
Is there anything "good" which has benefited mankind which can be attributed to the writings of the bible, quran, etc, to basically prove its divinity.
Something which logic, intelligence or just plain common sense alone could not have intentionally or accidentally stumbled onto?
EG:
Any mind blowing moral or ethical teachings which we are now only realising their social profoundness?
Did Jesus ever mutter to one of his disciples: let me tell you a secret, "e=mc2"
or maybe God mentioned the double helix somewhere in the old testament and we missed it?
No reference of a meteor from 75 million years ago doing a bit of damage to Gods property?
My point is: If all of this "could have" been written by man, why don't we just accept it as "fiction" like we do with other books, novels.
Instead, for most, the absurd version of events seems the most likely! Why?
The Ancient greeks had lots of stories, myths, parables, eg: The Minotaur, etc, but no-one believes that was actual.
I'll never get it ....
God has the answers if you will allow it.
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RE: divine logic?
June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm
(June 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has the answers if you will allow it.
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Why don't you go for the James Randi One Million Dollar Challenge Godschild? Or, are you not that confident in your god that he will deliver you to prove his existence to everyone? You can go up there, and tell everyone that you talk to god, and he'll be giving you all the information, and he'll point you to which box has the prize in it on a perfect, repeatable basis. Then you can donate the money, because god doesn't know how to feed starving people, so maybe you can go buy food for some folks or something if you don't want to use the money on yourself. Or, your god will tell you what to do with the money, I guess.
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RE: divine logic?
June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm
(June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: (June 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: God has the answers if you will allow it.
GC
Why don't you go for the James Randi One Million Dollar Challenge Godschild? Or, are you not that confident in your god that he will deliver you to prove his existence to everyone? You can go up there, and tell everyone that you talk to god, and he'll be giving you all the information, and he'll point you to which box has the prize in it on a perfect, repeatable basis. Then you can donate the money, because god doesn't know how to feed starving people, so maybe you can go buy food for some folks or something if you don't want to use the money on yourself. Or, your god will tell you what to do with the money, I guess.
Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: divine logic?
June 23, 2015 at 2:51 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
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RE: divine logic?
June 23, 2015 at 3:02 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Why don't you go for the James Randi One Million Dollar Challenge Godschild? Or, are you not that confident in your god that he will deliver you to prove his existence to everyone? You can go up there, and tell everyone that you talk to god, and he'll be giving you all the information, and he'll point you to which box has the prize in it on a perfect, repeatable basis. Then you can donate the money, because god doesn't know how to feed starving people, so maybe you can go buy food for some folks or something if you don't want to use the money on yourself. Or, your god will tell you what to do with the money, I guess.
Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
GC
That is hilarious.
The only reason you have not recognized the invisible fire-breathing dragon under your bed is that you do not properly seek him. He is waiting for you, and wants to be your friend. Why do you not seek him?
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: divine logic?
June 23, 2015 at 4:00 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Why don't you go for the James Randi One Million Dollar Challenge Godschild? Or, are you not that confident in your god that he will deliver you to prove his existence to everyone? You can go up there, and tell everyone that you talk to god, and he'll be giving you all the information, and he'll point you to which box has the prize in it on a perfect, repeatable basis. Then you can donate the money, because god doesn't know how to feed starving people, so maybe you can go buy food for some folks or something if you don't want to use the money on yourself. Or, your god will tell you what to do with the money, I guess.
Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
GC
Your lack of common sense is astounding to say the least. Atheists are far more educated about how god works together with people??? Are fucking kidding me? Is it possible for you to give a straight answer or a coherent sentence on here? When asked where god is, what he does, anything about him, you tell me to seek him. How about you seek reality? Then you say, he shows himself to each one of us. Actually, he fucking doesn’t. So, how about you stop lying and making an ass of yourself?
“Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him.”
Care to prove your bullshit for once? Or are you going to mindlessly repeat that over and over again your whole life, like fucking robot?
Stop making claims that you can’t back up. You talk to god? Prove it. God works with human beings…how so? I’m expecting a complete nonsense answer to that last one, as we all are. Here's what you're going to say, "I have no proof, all I have are my wild speculations"
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RE: divine logic?
June 24, 2015 at 2:28 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:51 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
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You have even less an idea about the way God works with mankind.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: divine logic?
June 24, 2015 at 2:29 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
GC
That is hilarious.
The only reason you have not recognized the invisible fire-breathing dragon under your bed is that you do not properly seek him. He is waiting for you, and wants to be your friend. Why do you not seek him?
I keep dragon poison under my bed.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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