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(June 23, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(June 23, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
God works with each one individually, He shows himself to each one, that is if one wants to know Him. Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him. If you're interested in finding out about God seek Him.
GC
Your lack of common sense is astounding to say the least. Atheists are far more educated about how god works together with people??? Are fucking kidding me? Is it possible for you to give a straight answer or a coherent sentence on here? When asked where god is, what he does, anything about him, you tell me to seek him. How about you seek reality? Then you say, he shows himself to each one of us. Actually, he fucking doesn’t. So, how about you stop lying and making an ass of yourself?
“Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him.”
Care to prove your bullshit for once? Or are you going to mindlessly repeat that over and over again your whole life, like fucking robot?
Stop making claims that you can’t back up. You talk to god? Prove it. God works with human beings…how so? I’m expecting a complete nonsense answer to that last one, as we all are. Here's what you're going to say, "I have no proof, all I have are my wild speculations"
Seems to me that the bad language you use is compensating for a weak mind that cares nothing about searching out truth. I believe I asked you earlier tour age, what is it 13, 14, whatever it is doesn't really matter it wouldn't change your childish attitude nor your ability to put up a good argument.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(June 22, 2015 at 7:18 am)ignoramus Wrote: Any mind blowing moral or ethical teachings which we are now only realising their social profoundness? Did Jesus ever mutter to one of his disciples: let me tell you a secret, "e=mc2" or maybe God mentioned the double helix somewhere in the old testament and we missed it? No reference of a meteorfrom 75 million years ago doing a bit of damage to Gods property?
You don't think the teachings of Jesus were unique, counter-cultural, and had a purpose? The process that can change a life on the inside has got to be one of the greatest accomplishments of all times. Even if you want to deny God exists, if a society were to otherwise follow all of Jesus' moral teachings, it would be a fantastic place to live--arguably the best place on earth.
June 24, 2015 at 4:52 pm (This post was last modified: June 24, 2015 at 5:06 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A place in which thought-crime and disproportionate punishment, as well as vicarious redemption were accepted as both fact and virtue? No thanks, sounds like a shithole Steve. You're free to leave and go find that place, of course.....
......you'll be missed.......
It gets tedious, reminding people why this "buddy jesus" business is fucking nonsense....."jesus" had the -worst- ideas to be found in the entirety of the text......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(June 23, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Your lack of common sense is astounding to say the least. Atheists are far more educated about how god works together with people??? Are fucking kidding me? Is it possible for you to give a straight answer or a coherent sentence on here? When asked where god is, what he does, anything about him, you tell me to seek him. How about you seek reality? Then you say, he shows himself to each one of us. Actually, he fucking doesn’t. So, how about you stop lying and making an ass of yourself?
“Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him.”
Care to prove your bullshit for once? Or are you going to mindlessly repeat that over and over again your whole life, like fucking robot?
Stop making claims that you can’t back up. You talk to god? Prove it. God works with human beings…how so? I’m expecting a complete nonsense answer to that last one, as we all are. Here's what you're going to say, "I have no proof, all I have are my wild speculations"
Seems to me that the bad language you use is compensating for a weak mind that cares nothing about searching out truth. I believe I asked you earlier tour age, what is it 13, 14, whatever it is doesn't really matter it wouldn't change your childish attitude nor your ability to put up a good argument.
GC
You don’t know what a good argument is. You have ignored everyone, including myself. We have given you arguments, and all you do is plug ears. You don’t want to hear about other religions and don’t want to hear about other arguments, all you want to hear about, is your bible. That doesn’t sound like you want to know what is true, as you dishonestly claim about myself. I, actually have listened to many debates, apologists, read about many religions, read about facts and science, and did my best to figure out what made the most sense. I don’t close my mind to facts, and defend a primitive book in every circumstance, against all reason. I actually cared whether my beliefs were justified or not, and stopped believing in them, when they no longer were.
It’s funny, because we’re all still waiting for a good argument why the bible is true, why the extraordinary claims about jesus are believable, and why we’re supposed to believe in the stories that sound like fairy tales in the bible, as opposed to other religions, why their fairy tales are false and yours aren’t. We’re all listening, we are open-minded people, it’s the christians, for the most part, that aren’t. Our responses don’t mean we’re close-minded, it means we have rebuttals (because what you, and others say is easily debunked), it would be nice if you actually listened to them for a change, instead of constantly making up claims about god and about other things you can’t possibly know as if they were true. The reason I am swearing is because you lie or say something so ridiculous, and you back it up with claims that you talk to god and know what he wants. Care to prove your claims? Or do you just want to dodge everyone constantly and call them 13 years old for using common sense?
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'-Isaac Asimov-
(June 25, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(June 24, 2015 at 2:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me that the bad language you use is compensating for a weak mind that cares nothing about searching out truth. I believe I asked you earlier tour age, what is it 13, 14, whatever it is doesn't really matter it wouldn't change your childish attitude nor your ability to put up a good argument.
GC
You don’t know what a good argument is. You have ignored everyone, including myself. We have given you arguments, and all you do is plug ears. You don’t want to hear about other religions and don’t want to hear about other arguments, all you want to hear about, is your bible. That doesn’t sound like you want to know what is true, as you dishonestly claim about myself. I, actually have listened to many debates, apologists, read about many religions, read about facts and science, and did my best to figure out what made the most sense. I don’t close my mind to facts, and defend a primitive book in every circumstance, against all reason. I actually cared whether my beliefs were justified or not, and stopped believing in them, when they no longer were.
It’s funny, because we’re all still waiting for a good argument why the bible is true, why the extraordinary claims about jesus are believable, and why we’re supposed to believe in the stories that sound like fairy tales in the bible, as opposed to other religions, why their fairy tales are false and yours aren’t. We’re all listening, we are open-minded people, it’s the christians, for the most part, that aren’t. Our responses don’t mean we’re close-minded, it means we have rebuttals (because what you, and others say is easily debunked), it would be nice if you actually listened to them for a change, instead of constantly making up claims about god and about other things you can’t possibly know as if they were true. The reason I am swearing is because you lie or say something so ridiculous, and you back it up with claims that you talk to god and know what he wants. Care to prove your claims? Or do you just want to dodge everyone constantly and call them 13 years old for using common sense?
You haven't been paying attention to my responses, I've explained myself and my beliefs. I've stated (something you will only curse at) that God proves himself to each individual one at a time, it's a personal relationship, one on one, not a large class room setting.
I told you I'm not interested a in another religion, the relationship I have with God is real, why would I want to change, why would I want to waste time on away from my relationship with God on another religion that has no more to offer than a statue made of stone or wood. Why would I want something that couldn't give me what I have now, what I want, what I've experienced. You run down personal experience with God, how else is one to have a relationship with God? You are probably one who forums all your supposed relationships over facebook, twitter, texting and ect., well those electronic relationships, what are they secured by how are they relevant?
You keep claiming I'm a liar because I say I know God and what He desires in my life, you say I'm a liar because I can understand God in a personal way. Well you're wrong I do know what I experience, without doubt and you need to support your claim I'm a liar about these things.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(June 24, 2015 at 2:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have even less an idea about the way God works with mankind.
GC
I'm sure I'll find out when I'm dead. 'Til then, couldn't give a rat's arse.
That's a very true statement.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(June 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: You keep claiming I'm a liar because I say I know God and what He desires in my life, you say I'm a liar because I can understand God in a personal way. Well you're wrong I do know what I experience, without doubt and you need to support your claim I'm a liar about these things.
GC
I don't claim you to be a liar with regards to you actually believing you have a personal relationship with god, or that you think that you hear him talking to you. I believe that you genuinely believe that, but when asked to prove that you talk to god (because you have claimed to do just that), you shy away from that, and the folks on here know why that it is.
Lies in our recent conversations:
Quote:Seems to me that the bad language you use is compensating for a weak mind that cares nothing about searching out truth.
Especially those last 7 words.
Seeking truth doesn’t come from talking to yourself. You should start off with facts, and go from there. Not start off with stories, and then shape everything in the world around that, but I’m relatively confident that you’d disagree.
Quote:I've not seen contradictions in the Bible and I've read and studied it from beginning to end for many years, if you've seen contradictions then they have been of your own making.
Post #31 B.P.C. Thread.
Quote:There are no contradictions
Post #69 B.P.C. Thread.
There are multiple claims made by you, that there are no contradictions in the bible. I’m very confident that every non-christian on here will say that you’re full of shit. If these contradictions were in science books or the koran, I’d think you’d happily admit these examples given to you were contradictions, but when it’s the bible, they are no such thing.
See? That’s what people do when asked to back up claims they have made.
Just a few quick claims that you have made to that you don’t care to prove:
Quote:God has the answers if you will allow it.
(Responding to Neimenovic, post #10)
Quote:Your lack of understanding of the way people and God work together is astounding to say the least. Many of the atheist here are far more educated in this matter.
(Post #15)
Quote:Th only time when God will show himself to the entire world is the second coming and then it's to late for those who rejected Him.
(Post #15)
Quote:because God has revealed to many Christians the Bible is the only truth from Him to mankind.
Post #104 B.P.C Thread
Quote:On this we agree, actually only one religion is true out of the thousands. It's established by God for man and taught through the OT and NT.
Post #104 B.P.C. Thread
I responded to you in #106 of my B.P.C. Thread in the religion section, and you never got back to me, but that’s ok, I won’t be responding, because you don’t back up your claims or answer questions with straight answers. If you respond, maybe someone else can take care of it for me. I carried on a conversation on with you for long enough.
You have also argued in my other thread that the bible was god inspired and that the holy spirit made sure that they didn’t misrepresent the accounts and that the truth was written down, you said there was no proof for evolution, and many other things I’m not going to quote, but happily will, if absolutely necessary. You don’t have to respond, because I’m not going to respond back to you on this thread (unless myself, or the moderators feel it’s necessary), I’m sure everyone will understand why.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'-Isaac Asimov-
