Abortion -cpr on the fetus?

[popsthebuilder]

@pops. Please stop engaging in this thread. I am specifically staying out of the overall abortion debate and wanted to raise a single moral question to get people thinking. Your preaching is off point and would best be served in its own thread. Thanks

No problem. I apologize for introducing any confusion. I'm off.

[rexbeccarox]

Hey, asswipe.  If it isn't your dick knocking her up where the fuck do you get off telling other people how to live their lives?  Fuck you, you miserable busy body.  I repeat, what the fuck does it matter to you?

If you have no answer better than "jesus" then go fuck him too.

The betterment of all life. To propel life in the right direction. Is someone makes poor life decisions then there are consequences. They must be ready to face there decisions as they are there own, and no one else's. Doesn't have too much to do with Jesus. Who the fuck Said I was Christian anyway, cause it sure in the fuck wasn't me. You seam awfully interested in my perspective for someone who claims they don't want to hear it.

I'd really like you to answer this, pops:

Not less valuable at all. A negative thing happened to the mother. That could bring negative to the child. Also the mother is not responsible. And cannot be held accountable for something she couldn't help. She may not be able to provide for the child. These all become feasible, legitimate reasons to abort at a very early stage of pregnancy do to circumstances that were really out of the mother's hands.

Do you really think the best way to raise a child is through punishment for having sex?

[popsthebuilder]

The betterment of all life. To propel life in the right direction. Is someone makes poor life decisions then there are consequences. They must be ready to face there decisions as they are there own, and no one else's. Doesn't have too much to do with Jesus. Who the fuck Said I was Christian anyway, cause it sure in the fuck wasn't me. You seam awfully interested in my perspective for someone who claims they don't want to hear it.

I'd really like you to answer this, pops:

Do you really think the best way to raise a child is through punishment for having sex?

No in fact the question isn't even coherent to me. Could you 're word it please?

[answer-is-42]

@snakeoil. No you mentally deficient, forked tongue, spineless waste of lipids. You missed my point and did not answer my question. Do you believe that emergency healthcare is a right regardless of ability to pay or not. If you do then the financial burden is irrelevant and if you don't then say that (I would disagree with you). My point is morally as far as i can see based on bodily autonomy the most a pregnant woman can ask for is to terminate a pregnancy. That's as far as her right extends, and that had been done. If the fetus survives, why should she have the right to kill it? How is that morally different then killing a 6 month old she does not want or is unable to support? That you have not addressed. Try again

[Ravenshire]

@Minimalist. Correct me if I'm wrong but your argument (like snake oil) is don't do it because it's expensive? That does not seem like a moral arguement. It maybe a practical one, but I aske about the morality. There is currently a new treatment for small cell lung cancer (nasty disease) that improves survival dynamically. It costs >$1 million dollars a year. I highly doubt an uninsured patient is getting it outside of a research trial. Is that moral too? I may be real life but does that make it moral ?

Don't put word in my mouth because you're too stone fucking stupid to understand my point.

[rexbeccarox]

I'd really like you to answer this, pops:

No in fact the question isn't even coherent to me. Could you 're word it please?

You said there are consequences for bad decisions, so abortions are wrong unless they're due to rape. I'm asking if you think it's a good idea to raise a child as punishment for the "poor decision" to have unprotected sex.

[popsthebuilder]

No in fact the question isn't even coherent to me. Could you 're word it please?

You said there are consequences for bad decisions, so abortions are wrong unless they're due to rape. I'm asking if you think it's a good idea to raise a child as punishment for the "poor decision" to have unprotected sex.

No. Not at all. We sin. Children have not. Even though it may be quite painful for a selfish person to raise a kid, it would be detrimental to said innocent child, and very bad.

I am not going to post on this board again. Someone respectfully asked me not to and I said I would stop. We were already conversing though. Hope I answered your question. Good luck with your endeavours everyone.

[Ravenshire]

@snakeoil. No you mentally deficient, forked tongue, spineless waste of lipids. You missed my point and did not answer my question. Do you believe that emergency healthcare is a right regardless of ability to pay or not. If you do then the financial burden is irrelevant and if you don't then say that (I would disagree with you). My point is morally as far as i can see based on bodily autonomy the most a pregnant woman can ask for is to terminate a pregnancy. That's as far as her right extends, and that had been done. If the fetus survives, why should she have the right to kill it? How is that morally different then killing a 6 month old she does not want or is unable to support? That you have not addressed. Try again

You know what? I give up. You're too stone fucking stupid to understand that the patient's rights are being violated if you, through some truly heroic measures, manage to save Baby Goo. As to your false analogy (the one you keep making even though why it's false has clearly been pointed out), I'm not answering that again.

I really hope you are not a doctor. If you are, I pity your patients.

[Ravenshire]

We sin.

I haven't.

[rexbeccarox]

You said there are consequences for bad decisions, so abortions are wrong unless they're due to rape. I'm asking if you think it's a good idea to raise a child as punishment for the "poor decision" to have unprotected sex.

No. Not at all. We sin. Children have not. Even though it may be quite painful for a selfish person to raise a kid, it would be detrimental to said innocent child, and very bad.

I am not going to post on this board again. Someone respectfully asked me not to and I said I would stop. We were already conversing though. Hope I answered your question. Good luck with your endeavours everyone.

... but you're against abortion? How does that follow?