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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 6:30 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 5:02 pm)KUSA Wrote: Liberty? It's a right.
Only if the government allows. In America, the government is sanding away at the edges of our liberties.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 6:34 pm
As much as I'd love to imposed a nationwide ban on guns that isn't gonna happen so I think I'll be reasonable
1. No one with mental health issues
Or caring for someone with mental health issues
2. No freaking blind people! Looking at u Iowa
3. Catergorize and separate! Do antiques and collectibles really count as weapons? And I don't think you need more than one gun per person as far as "self defense".
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 6:46 pm
I voted for Introduce a gun registry, mandatory insurance and inspections, and Bring in universal background checks.
Don't know if this will help keep the bad guys from getting their hands on guns or not, but it may be worth a try.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 7:10 pm
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2015 at 7:13 pm by JuliaL.)
Keep the current system.
Point 1)
It works.
Over half the people killed by guns in the U.S. are their owners or close family members.
I am in favor of self selected population reduction.
Point 2)
It isn't the duly established elected government we need to worry about and it wouldn't work anyway.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 7:13 pm
4 and 5.
Though I think a complete ban is the best policy, replaced with everyone carrying teaspoons instead.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm
Ban them all maybe except hunting guns (which should still be tightly controlled). If nobody is allowed guns, you don't need a gun.
Just my opinion, sorry if offense is caused.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 7:56 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Ban them all maybe except hunting guns (which should still be tightly controlled). If nobody is allowed guns, you don't need a gun.
Just my opinion, sorry if offense is caused.
This would be ideal, but the tricky part is that criminals will still find a way to get guns. Just like they still find a way to get recreational drugs despite it being banned.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 9:09 pm
Selected keep current policy. I grew up with guns, mostly for hunting. Currently own 10, only one handgun, some assault rifles. I find handguns dangerous, to many unintended targets. Guns and ammo are kept separate and locked, safety first. Just got back from range shoot with my gun dealer and a few others. For me there is a thrill that I get at the range that I don't experience with many/any other activities. The group considers them big boy toys, a hobbie and investments. As far as sales go, we follow all of the legal requirements, do not sell at gun shows. Sales are rare and mostly to other like minded individuals.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 9:33 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 4:01 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Complete ban, ofc. People don't need their 'toys' to defend themselves against govts, in this 'brainy' age. Any other reason for possessing one, falls in line with the same reasoning, asfaict*.
*As far as I can tell.
You apparently don't live out in the country, where the animals aren't so amenable to such ideological reasoning.
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RE: USA and Gun control
July 12, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 4:18 am)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: I'd be afraid of shooting a shotgun in a neighborhood where the buckshot would go through the house, into the next house without much of a problem, same goes for handguns. Even with hollow points, or other home defense ammo, the penetration is still quite..well too much penetration.
Shotgun penetration is much less than handgun penetration. And aside from being much less likely to penetrate walls, a shotgun has a couple of added advantages: 1) working the action on a pump-action shotgun would likely make the gun's firing less likely; and 2) it can also be used as a club to effect.
If you're worried about penetration in a cheap urban apartment building, get beanbag rounds instead.
The only handgun I'd consider for home defense would be a .45 1911-type, because it will stop anything on the first hit no matter what. But even then, I'd prefer a shotgun.
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