Guzman Escaped

[Nope]

I'm rather surprised these news only reached America now. It's all over our news for the last two days.

And why the outrage? He's a businessman catering to a market. You could even argue he's hurt less people than the suits at Wallstreet.

It might be true that he hurt less people than Wall street. I can't really say about that. However, I like to read the articles on Borderland Beat and the drug cartels are very violent and kill many people who aren't involved in drugs. The drug cartels also involved in trafficking women. It is very sad. I think marijuana legalization in the US would help lessen some of the cartel's power.

I would agree that there are a lot of people in the financial community that should be in jail. There are American banks that launder money for the cartel and I don't think that anyone has ever been sent to prison for that. That doesn't change the fact that Guzman should be in jail also.

[Nope]

Why should Mexico "turn him over to the US?"  It's a sovereign nation...Fuckhead Trump notwithstanding.

I was just summarizing the articles that I read. Like Pyrrho wrote, this is a man with a lot of money. Would we do a better job at keeping him in prison? I don't know the answer to that. Who could have guessed that someone would buy a piece of property, build a fake house and tunnel their way into the prison? That sounds like the plot of a bad movie.

[Pyrrho]

I'm sure he broke enough laws in Mexico.  In case you forgot, our record for prison security is not exactly unblemished, either.

They locked him up twice and he got away twice.  He has not escaped from one of our prisons yet.  Given Mexico's repeated failure to hold him, I think the U.S. should at least get one chance to lock him up.  

If Mexico were not a failure at keeping him in prison, I would be more than okay with him staying in a Mexican prison.

[Minimalist]

You're expanding our self-granted title of world's policeman to world's jailer.

Meanwhile, this is funny.


http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/el-cha...nald-trump

'El Chapo' Doesn't Appreciate Donald Trump Using Him To Attack Mexico

Maybe he'll have Trump whacked?  There's a win-win.

[Pyrrho]

...
Maybe he'll have Trump whacked? ...

Maybe he is not all bad...

[Nope]

This is how one site translated El Chapo's tweet.

"Keep f***ing around and I'm gonna make you swallow your bitch words you f***ing whitey milks***tter (that's a homophobic slur)."


http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/donald-tru...th-threat/

I wonder if it is possible that Trump is behind the text? It would keep his names in the news.

[abaris]

It might be true that he hurt less people than Wall street. I can't really say about that. However, I like to read the articles on Borderland Beat and the drug cartels are very violent and kill many people who aren't involved in drugs. The drug cartels also involved in trafficking women.  It is very sad. I think marijuana legalization in the US would help lessen some of the cartel's power.

It was meant as a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment. But it really makes you think. What's the big difference between these kind of people and the ones gambling away people's life savings and homes? What's the difference between Al Capone and Andrew Carnegie? Both killed to make money. Capone in the streets and Carnegie his factory workers.

[Nope]

It might be true that he hurt less people than Wall street. I can't really say about that. However, I like to read the articles on Borderland Beat and the drug cartels are very violent and kill many people who aren't involved in drugs. The drug cartels also involved in trafficking women.  It is very sad. I think marijuana legalization in the US would help lessen some of the cartel's power.

It was meant as a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment. But it really makes you think. What's the big difference between these kind of people and the ones gambling away people's life savings and homes? What's the difference between Al Capone and Andrew Carnegie? Both killed to make money. Capone in the streets and Carnegie his factory workers.

Don't forget, American banks have gotten into trouble for laundering money for the same cartels! l.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/ap...drug-gangs

Criminal proceedings were brought against Wachovia, though not against any individual, but the case never came to court. In March 2010, Wachovia settled the biggest action brought under the US bank secrecy act, through the US district court in Miami. Now that the year's "deferred prosecution" has expired, the bank is in effect in the clear. It paid federal authorities $110m in forfeiture, for allowing transactions later proved to be connected to drug smuggling, and incurred a $50m fine for failing to monitor cash used to ship 22 tons of cocaine.

More shocking, and more important, the bank was sanctioned for failing to apply the proper anti-laundering strictures to the transfer of $378.4bn – a sum equivalent to one-third of Mexico's gross national product – into dollar accounts from so-called casas de cambio (CDCs) in Mexico, currency exchange houses with which the bank did business.

No prison time and no trial, just a big fine that probably won't hurt the bank.

[Minimalist]

Don't forget, American banks have gotten into trouble for laundering money for the same cartels!

That's different....it's about money.

[Minimalist]

BTW, it's important to remember that Trump is just a con artist.  3 short years ago he was spouting this shit.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/09/2012-f...mmigrants/

While Donald Trump has taken an aggressive anti-illegal immigration stance since announcing his presidential candidacy, in 2012, after Mitt Romney lost to President Obama, the real estate billionaire criticized the GOP for being too harsh towards illegal immigrants.
“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump told Newsmax’s Ronald Kessler in a Nov. 26, 2012 interview.
“They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”
Trump’s call for a more delicate approach then on the issue of illegal immigration is in stark contrast to his recent comments.

Of course he also understands that the shitheads who make up the republicunt base have the attention spans of gerbils so he isn't so worried about old video clips.