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July 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm
(July 13, 2015 at 2:14 pm)abaris Wrote: I'm rather surprised these news only reached America now. It's all over our news for the last two days.
And why the outrage? He's a businessman catering to a market. You could even argue he's hurt less people than the suits at Wallstreet.
It might be true that he hurt less people than Wall street. I can't really say about that. However, I like to read the articles on Borderland Beat and the drug cartels are very violent and kill many people who aren't involved in drugs. The drug cartels also involved in trafficking women. It is very sad. I think marijuana legalization in the US would help lessen some of the cartel's power.
I would agree that there are a lot of people in the financial community that should be in jail. There are American banks that launder money for the cartel and I don't think that anyone has ever been sent to prison for that. That doesn't change the fact that Guzman should be in jail also.
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July 13, 2015 at 6:18 pm
(July 13, 2015 at 2:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Why should Mexico "turn him over to the US?" It's a sovereign nation...Fuckhead Trump notwithstanding.
I was just summarizing the articles that I read. Like Pyrrho wrote, this is a man with a lot of money. Would we do a better job at keeping him in prison? I don't know the answer to that. Who could have guessed that someone would buy a piece of property, build a fake house and tunnel their way into the prison? That sounds like the plot of a bad movie.
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July 13, 2015 at 6:50 pm
(July 13, 2015 at 2:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'm sure he broke enough laws in Mexico. In case you forgot, our record for prison security is not exactly unblemished, either.
They locked him up twice and he got away twice. He has not escaped from one of our prisons yet. Given Mexico's repeated failure to hold him, I think the U.S. should at least get one chance to lock him up.
If Mexico were not a failure at keeping him in prison, I would be more than okay with him staying in a Mexican prison.
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July 13, 2015 at 7:54 pm
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July 13, 2015 at 10:16 pm
(July 13, 2015 at 7:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: ...
Maybe he'll have Trump whacked? ...
Maybe he is not all bad...
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RE: Guzman Escaped
July 14, 2015 at 6:49 am
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July 14, 2015 at 7:39 am
(July 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Nope Wrote: It might be true that he hurt less people than Wall street. I can't really say about that. However, I like to read the articles on Borderland Beat and the drug cartels are very violent and kill many people who aren't involved in drugs. The drug cartels also involved in trafficking women. It is very sad. I think marijuana legalization in the US would help lessen some of the cartel's power.
It was meant as a sarcastic tongue in cheek comment. But it really makes you think. What's the big difference between these kind of people and the ones gambling away people's life savings and homes? What's the difference between Al Capone and Andrew Carnegie? Both killed to make money. Capone in the streets and Carnegie his factory workers.
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July 14, 2015 at 7:53 am
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July 14, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Quote:Don't forget, American banks have gotten into trouble for laundering money for the same cartels!
That's different....it's about money.
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