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Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
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RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
Double post
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#22
RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
If the truth is on your side, you don't need to lie.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#23
RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
Chad, you've been here long enough to know that you aren't just going to get away with posting inane assertions and have anyone believe them just because you said so.

Evidence, please, that:
1) There is a "kickback" system
2) The economy of scale; that the price for fetal tissue is $30-$100
3) That the fetal tissue that is being harvested comes from viable fetuses.
4) That there is any stacking of bodies in mass graves.

Abortions happen. It is a grim, unfortunate reality, but a reality nonetheless. That fetal tissue could be treated as medical waste, or the stem cells could be used to develop a cure for Alzheimer's or Huntington's disease.

Hell, it is even reasonable to assume some corporate asshattery here, like I would with any corporation, profit or non-profit. But until you have evidence that something illegal is happening or that PP is donating the fetal tissue without parental consent, all you have here is some clickbait with a misleading headline that appeals to your sense of objection.
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RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
(July 15, 2015 at 8:47 am)Nestor Wrote: A modern day Ezekiel, we have here folks. But serially . . . Get off your fucking soap box. A fetus is not a person. We don't have moral obligations towards it.

'Person' is a legal term; 'human' is a biological one. It is an indisputable biological fact that a fetus is a human being. As such, we do have moral obligations to other human beings, unless you're a nihilist. I can; however, accept that those obligations may vary depending on circumstances, from minimal to extensive.
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(July 15, 2015 at 8:34 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Spin away, butchers. You can hide behind euphemisms all you want but it all comes to the same time. Pull the viable baby out except the head, shove a knife in the back of its neck, and chop the corpse up for your business partners. The only reason they can do it so cheaply is because of economy of scale. But no that's only the cost of delivery. Uh huh like StemExpress wouldn't make any donations to support its source. She already admitted on tape to negotiations "behind closed doors". Sure its all legal in the same way off shore tax shelters are but that doesn't make it any less horrific. Medical procedures can be gory but there's a difference between dead bodies stored in morgues and bodies stacked in a mass grave. Anyone with a conscience can see the difference.

I guess black lives only matter when it's convenient.

StemExpress gets  its stem cells from livers and livers are body parts.

The Bible endorses abortion, you heathen!  It even tells how to do it in Numbers 5:

http://www.parallelbible.com/numbers/5.htm

Or you can pick a translation from a dropdown list at:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=KJV


(Of course, kids, it is not something to try at home!)

There is also more in the Bible about the lack of worth of fetuses and young children, but instructions on actual abortions is more than enough.

According to God in the Bible, performing abortions is not wrong.  God is telling the people how to do it in Numbers 5.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Chad, you're on the right kinda track to being the Obnoxious Theist Fuckhead of the Week. Considering the stiff competition you face, I have to admit I'm impressed Smile
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(July 15, 2015 at 9:39 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Chad, you've been here long enough to know that you aren't just going to get away with posting inane assertions and have anyone believe them just because you said so.
I admit to speculation, but I do not consider them inane (they are likely) and I think it more accurate to say I am making inferences rather than assertions.

1) There is a "kickback" system (don't be naive)
2) The economy of scale; that the price for fetal tissue is $30-$100 (no more unreasonable that claiming the fees are merely for transport)
3) That the fetal tissue that is being harvested comes from viable fetuses. (the procedures described in the video must be performed on healthy and naturally developing babies at late stages of development, i.e. partial birth)
4) That there is any stacking of bodies in mass graves. (just an analogy to show that confining your judgement medical details ignores the context, lancing a blister is different from stabbing someone with a knife, etc.)

The eugenics founder of PP, Margaret Sanger, would be proud of all you defending her racist agenda.
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#28
RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
Wait, how is race getting tied up in this? Are you saying the founder of PP is attempting to hurt the black population? With prenatal care? You do realize that abortion is less than 5% percent of what PP actually provides?
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(July 14, 2015 at 9:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Callous and depraved. What kind of country allows this kind of inhumanity to continue?

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(July 15, 2015 at 10:46 am)Faith No More Wrote: Wait, how is race getting tied up in this?  Are you saying the founder of PP is attempting to hurt the black population?  With prenatal care?  You do realize that abortion is less than 5% percent of what PP actually provides?

Most of the idiots against them have no clue on that.  Planned Parenthood provides breast cancer screening and many other health matters.  Abortion is, as you say, a very small part of what they do.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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