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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:57 pm
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(July 15, 2015 at 11:46 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm)huss88ein Wrote: That's not the point .
The point here that if these things were legal people who are doing them right now will do them without any fear from punishment thus making them bold an come out to public making the society a hard place to live in.
As for drugs not many people are doing drugs now I agree but look how many smokers are there in the world because it is legal.
Do you really think there would be fewer smokers if smoking was illegal? Have you ever heard of the United States Prohibition Era? Yes I have and from that you can conclude two things
That if drinking was forbidden in Christianity as it is in Islam it would have been easier by the way people who drink in muslim communities are a minority.
The second thing you can't get people used to something as a legal thing and take it away after that will make it harder to quit.
In conclusion if drugs where legal there will be much more users and if u try to make illegal again you wont be able to .
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:59 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:57 pm)huss88ein Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:46 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Do you really think there would be fewer smokers if smoking was illegal? Have you ever heard of the United States Prohibition Era? Yes I have and from that you can conclude two things
That if drinking was forbidden in Christianity as it is in Islam it would have been easier by the way people who drink in muslim communities are a minority.
The second thing you can't get people used to thing as a legal thing and take it away after thst will make harder to quit.
In conclusion if drugs where legal there will be much more users and if u try to make illegal again you wont be able to .
How do you get to that conclusion from what you stated? You make absolutely no sense.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:00 am
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(July 15, 2015 at 11:50 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:41 pm)huss88ein Wrote: That's not the point .
The point here that if these things were legal people who are doing them right now will do them without any fear from punishment thus making them bold an come out to public making the society a hard place to live in.
As for drugs not many people are doing drugs now I agree but look how many smokers are there in the world because it is legal.
Come on, man. That was your point, and you know it. It makes no sense otherwise. Now you're lying to me. Maybe all this bluster about ethics isn't so true after all... It is and it is not in the same time that's why I'm not lying it is not the nombers but the phenomenon for the prostitution and it's the number issue for drugs u get it now.. as for the naked thing it is gross but if u like it who am I to argue it is ur beliefs we are discussing here not mine.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:00 am
Oh No, MK is here....
The OP must be getting serious to bring in the big artillery!
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:04 am
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(July 15, 2015 at 11:54 pm)Beccs Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:34 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Well you can read it on BBC News
It is just a discussion dude chill out
(July 15, 2015 at 11:47 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Gross fact yakk
So thats not prejudice to woman to use them as a product but wearing hijab is?
The women who become prostitutes do so by choice.
The women who become, for example, heart surgeons, do so by choice.
The women who wear hijab, most of the time, do NOT do so by choice. And, in an insular society like Saudi Arabia, I wonder what the level of sexual abuse is? We have no stats because the women aren't empowered to report it.
What a hideous society these poor women must live in.
Yuck! I am a muslim I don't know any of these women you are taking about these are just things going on your mind nothing more.
As for prostitution as a choice that's not accurate it is for the money so this woman is forced to sell her body for the money and guess what? it is legal just to satisfy the men; that's a real prejudice and a racist community to me.
(July 15, 2015 at 11:59 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:57 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Yes I have and from that you can conclude two things
That if drinking was forbidden in Christianity as it is in Islam it would have been easier by the way people who drink in muslim communities are a minority.
The second thing you can't get people used to thing as a legal thing and take it away after thst will make harder to quit.
In conclusion if drugs where legal there will be much more users and if u try to make illegal again you wont be able to .
How do you get to that conclusion from what you stated? You make absolutely no sense. It is completely a logical assumption I'll give an example if u know any smokers you will notice that they always try to quit but they can't at least most of them and if u ask them how they started they will say someone offered me a cigarette and when I tried it I liked it and started smoking but now I regret it.
So would be the issue for drugs if they were ok and acceptable in the community. Many people will start using at least to try them at first and then they wont be able to stop that is addiction my friend cigarettes do it alcohol do it and drugs do it.
I must ask where is rob he was doing a much better job than u guys with all respect of course
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:18 am
(July 15, 2015 at 11:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:46 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I am well aware of the proofs of god.
What's the proofs of God you are aware of?
Descartes, Anselm, St. Augustine, even Godel's mathematical proof.
Although I'm sure there's a specific one that you have that will just blow my socks off.
Please, start a thread.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:21 am
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(July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm)huss88ein Wrote: For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?
Like theists? Should I rape, pillage and burn...like a theist?
Nope, I'm incapable of not murdering every fucker who crosses me without gawd holding me back.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:28 am
(July 16, 2015 at 12:21 am)Spooky Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm)huss88ein Wrote: For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?
Like theists? Should I rape, pillage and burn...like a theist?
Nope, I'm incapable of not murdering every fucker who crosses me without gawd holding me back. Dear Spooky hhh that's a catchy name anyway the things you mentioned can be done by any psycho no matter what he believes in. Their are serial killers who don't believe in god so you are missing the point.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:38 am
Yeah... I'm just not...
OP, you make absolutely no sense at all.
I think I'll be done here.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 16, 2015 at 12:40 am
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(July 16, 2015 at 12:38 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Yeah... I'm just not...
OP, you make absolutely no sense at all.
I think I'll be done here. If ur talking about the not doing a good job part it is just more amusing to have more of a challenge especially that tob knows more about islam than most of the other members .
That is all my friend don't take personally.
Question for the guys who said incist is ok
If a man had intercourse with his daughter and she got pregnant he will be the father and grandfather for that kid who's social life will be destroyed because of that right you gave his mother snd father/grandfather.
And imagine the diseases he can carry because of the relativity between his father and mother.
What is this child fault to be punished without a reason ????
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