Posts: 981
Threads: 74
Joined: July 1, 2015
Reputation:
10
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 8:25 am by rado84.)
(July 16, 2015 at 7:25 am)FreeTony Wrote: I'm not convinced that your occupation claims are true
youtube.com/watch?v=JbPmSDnvCL4 - part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTa8PC-5PU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rYFq4_q54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dwc40RtpDc
(July 16, 2015 at 7:58 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: WTF is "London Subway"? I guess LONDONER must be from London, Canada. What's YOUR problem? Subway is the American word for Underground. Who cares which version he would use?
Posts: 736
Threads: 38
Joined: December 3, 2013
Reputation:
10
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 8:33 am
You claimed that there are areas of France in which you are highly likely to get killed if you wander into as a non-Muslim. This is clearly absurd and apparently based on Fox News.
Snopes has an article: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp
Posts: 25
Threads: 3
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
1
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 9:46 am by Aaran.)
(July 16, 2015 at 7:49 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Sikhs living with Hindus - No problem.
Err, I suggest the author read up on the history of the Indian subcontinent and the Khalistān movement (among other things).
That's not really an ongoing conflict. Hasn't been since the early 90's.
Hindu-Sikh relations prior to the 1980s were extremely amiable (with the exception of 17th century conflicts with Hindu Rajas from the foothills who had allied themselves with the Sikhs' auld enemy, the Mughals). Some Hindus of the Punjab continue to practice a storied tradition whereby the first born son of the family is brought up as a Sikh. The ninth Sikh Guru is revered as 'Hind Di Chadar' (the protector of India) by the Hindus themselves, because he willingly gave his head to protect the religious freedom of Hindus in Mughal India.
Relations deteriorated rapidly in the 80s after the Sikhs began to feel persecuted by the Congress Party, and became even worse after the storming of the Golden Temple in 1984, but were quickly recovered by the late 90s. Now, everything is as it used to be. The secessionist impulse is pretty negligible in the Punjab, it only really persists amongst the Sikhs of the diaspora, particularly those based in B.C, Canada.
Posts: 4659
Threads: 123
Joined: June 27, 2014
Reputation:
40
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 9:31 am
What a deep convincing study full of data and coherent arguments that are totally not a load of bullshit.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
Posts: 981
Threads: 74
Joined: July 1, 2015
Reputation:
10
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 10:27 am
(July 16, 2015 at 8:33 am)FreeTony Wrote: You claimed that there are areas of France in which you are highly likely to get killed if you wander into as a non-Muslim. This is clearly absurd and apparently based on Fox News.
Snopes has an article: http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp
Then come to my country and see for yourself. Here are entire villages with only Muslim inhabitants and they give you the bad look if you speak any other language but Turkish. I don't know what you're waiting for to happen to realize that the islamization of Europe has begun. But by the time you see that, it will be too late for all of us.
South Eastern part of Bulgaria, The Rodopi Mountains and all the settlements in these regions were islamized. More than 50% of the people in these settlements are Turkish (Muslims).
Posts: 4659
Threads: 123
Joined: June 27, 2014
Reputation:
40
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 10:30 am
Atheist_BG do you have any evidence b sides youtube videos and quoting anti-Islam websites? Where's the French census?
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
Posts: 736
Threads: 38
Joined: December 3, 2013
Reputation:
10
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 10:51 am
(July 16, 2015 at 10:27 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: Then come to my country and see for yourself. Here are entire villages with only Muslim inhabitants and they give you the bad look if you speak any other language but Turkish. I don't know what you're waiting for to happen to realize that the islamization of Europe has begun. But by the time you see that, it will be too late for all of us.
South Eastern part of Bulgaria, The Rodopi Mountains and all the settlements in these regions were islamized. More than 50% of the people in these settlements are Turkish (Muslims).
Where do you live?
A bad look and being killed aren't really the same thing.
You'd get a bad look and possibly worse in many situations, e.g. in America with white people in a black neighbourhood, or vice versa. I'm not excusing it, rather saying it is not just a result of a particular religion.
There are many things that divide people:
Religion
Class
Money
Cultural Background
Skin colour
Country
Sex/Gender
You'll see all these things causing division between people. In many cases it is more than one of these, which I would say is the case with many Muslim conflicts.
Posts: 6990
Threads: 89
Joined: January 6, 2012
Reputation:
103
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 11:11 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(July 16, 2015 at 9:01 am)Aaran Wrote: (July 16, 2015 at 7:49 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Sikhs living with Hindus - No problem.
Err, I suggest the author read up on the history of the Indian subcontinent and the Khalistān movement (among other things).
That's not really an ongoing conflict. Hasn't been since the early 90's.
Hindu-Sikh relations prior to the 1980s were extremely amiable (with the exception of 17th century conflicts with Hindu Rajas from the foothills who had allied themselves with the Sikhs' auld enemy, the Mughals). Some Hindus of the Punjab continue to practice a storied tradition whereby the first born son of the family is brought up as a Sikh. The ninth Sikh Guru is revered as 'Hind Di Chadar' (the protector of India) by the Hindus themselves, because he willingly gave his head to protect the religious freedom of Hindus in Mughal India.
Relations deteriorated rapidly in the 80s after the Sikhs began to feel persecuted by the Congress Party, and became even worse after the storming of the Golden Temple in 1984, but were quickly recovered by the late 90s. Now, everything is as it used to be. The secessionist impulse is pretty negligible in the Punjab, it only really persists amongst the Sikhs of the diaspora, particularly those based in B.C, Canada. Thanks, I understand, however nobody mentioned time frames, certainly not me.
Almost every single group mentioned in the 'no problem' section have had a violent, bloody falling out in the past. I mean,Jews and Christians. There are parts of the Christian world today where Jews are still vilified.
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
258
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 11:09 am
The problem with muslims is allah.
Posts: 25
Threads: 3
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
1
RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 16, 2015 at 11:25 am
(July 16, 2015 at 11:01 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Thanks, I understand, however nobody mentioned time frames, certainly not me.
Almost every single group mentioned in the 'no problem' section have had a violent, bloody falling out in the past. I mean,Jews and Christians. There are parts of the Christian world today where Jews are still vilified.
I understand, just thought it would be a good idea to expand on the subject because the Sikh people are so unknown to most of the people of the West.
|