Am I Going To Hell?

[Whateverist]

 In all the scenarios you free to put  "a God" instead of "my God" or "your God".  God was a term I used, but did not mean to have it interpreted as "my God".  Sorry I don't think God in plural terms. 

 "we don't know and may probably never know" is not a convincing argument for not trying !!!!

But why should we try to know god/God/gods?  What would be the motivation?

[Kingpin]

 In all the scenarios you free to put  "a God" instead of "my God" or "your God".  God was a term I used, but did not mean to have it interpreted as "my God".  Sorry I don't think God in plural terms. 

 "we don't know and may probably never know" is not a convincing argument for not trying !!!!

But why should we try to know god/God/gods?  What would be the motivation?

:lurk:

[Whateverist]

Can't we lurk without knowing god(s)?

[Kingpin]

Certainly. In fact I would say most are lurking without knowing God

[Fidel_Castronaut]

 In all the scenarios you free to put  "a God" instead of "my God" or "your God".  God was a term I used, but did not mean to have it interpreted as "my God".  Sorry I don't think God in plural terms. 

 "we don't know and may probably never know" is not a convincing argument for not trying !!!!

The onus is not on me to define a God to input into your scenario. I don't care about any God claims without evidence to back them up (every God claim ever made to date).

You are again guilty of using a strawman argument against a poster on this forum. Your assumption that I am not 'trying' to find out what happens both in regards to god(s) and when we die is erroneous. I judge claims as they are made to me (on a daily basis on this forum) and have found them all wanting. However, can you present a case that would make anyone here care about what happens when we die? Or rather, a case as to why we should care about what you find to be a convincing argument as to why we should care? I don't care about people's beliefs, I don't particularly care about what people think about an afterlife or about a god or gods.

Just because one believes that a god exists doesn't make it so. Just because you believe that we believe nothing happens above and beyond 'we don't know' doesn't make it so. The evidence (or lack thereof) suggests that indeed nothing happens, but that might not be the case. Your scenario of something happening however has less weight, again, because of no evidence. The argument is therefore dismissed and ignored by default.

I would also welcome your retraction of your claim about the beliefs of shuffle and an apology for the continued use of strawmen against him and other posters. Thanks.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

 Nope

   Did those four words change the meaning of your post? If so, call out that individual atheist. Unless Pyrrho was  the one who misquoted you then why do something to him that you disliked having done to you?

 Really, where did I misquote Pyrrho, I made a comment regarding that it is not consistent to call someone an atheist who does not believe in A and believes in B when both lack evidence.  If Pyrrho wanted clarification then he can ask for it, instead of being a jerk.

This is demonstrably false. An atheist = (as a minimum) lack of belief in a God or gods.

There is nothing precluding an atheist believing in all sorts of things, from an afterlife to pixies.

[Whateverist]

Damn that dog avatar has me hypnotized. Where should I mail the dog biscuits to?

[Kingpin]

Damn that dog avatar has me hypnotized.  Where should I mail the dog biscuits to?

[Catholic_Lady]

I personally don't believe that people go to Hell for the sole purpose of not believing in God. If I did, I'd also have to say that babies all go to Hell because they don't believe in God.

With that being said, I cannot tell you whether or not you are going to Hell. Or anyone else, for that matter. I can't even say if Hitler went to Hell. There are a lot of aspects that go into whether or not a particular person will go to Hell, and to say "[insert person's name here] is going to hell when he dies because he [insert particular sin here]" is simplistic, and not how things work. But it will basically boil down to those people putting themselves there, in the sense that they deliberately chose to turn away from goodness and love... and so they will go to the only place where those things are not present. Of course, none of us can know whether or not any particular person deliberately chose to turn away from those things because we cannot look into their hearts. We cannot measure this by simply looking at the sins they have committed.

It is also not my place to speculate on this. I believe that job is for God and God alone, since He is the only one that knows all the motivations, intentions, sentiments, etc, of a person.

[Iroscato]

I personally don't believe that people go to Hell for the sole purpose of not believing in God. If I did, I'd also have to say that babies all go to Hell because they don't believe in God.

With that being said, I cannot tell you whether or not you are going to Hell. Or anyone else, for that matter. I can't even say if Hitler went to Hell. There are a lot of aspects that go into whether or not a particular person will go to Hell, and to say "[insert person's name here] is going to hell when he dies because he [insert particular sin here]" is simplistic, and not how things work. But it will basically boil down to those people putting themselves there, in the sense that they deliberately chose to turn away from goodness and love... and so they will go to the only place where those things are not present. Of course, none of us can know whether or not any particular person deliberately chose to turn away from those things because we cannot look into their hearts. We cannot measure this by simply looking at the sins they have committed.  

It is also not my place to speculate on this. I believe that job is for God and God alone, since He is the only one that knows all the motivations, intentions, sentiments, etc, of a person.

That makes you in the minority CL. And the fact still - still - remains that no just god would send any of his "children" to an eternity of unfathomable agony. The maths (not math, yeh fecking american pigdogs, you) just does not add up.
But I suppose the various verses about eternal torment are simply metaphors, right?