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Advance to help Humanity
#61
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 12:38 am)pool Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 11:49 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: How do you reach that conclusion exactly? Besides, I'm much more interested in striving for equality than in creating it from the offset. But as I have already mentioned, this would naturally be an impossible state of affairs to hold on to for any amount of time. To strive for it and to wish it were absolutely so all of the time - those are extremely different things. You seem to always be taking God's POV whence I am merely talking the mortal's one, perhaps that's why you're so unabashedly misconstruing what I'm actually saying. 


No, I don't see that, and neither do you, apparently. You didn't actually provide any reason for your unwaranted conclusion, you just forced it down my throat out of the blue.

But this is beside the point. As I already mentioned and alluded at, we're not Gods, also it's reasonable to say that there is no being with godlike powers since we don't know of such a being as yet, so --- we can't assume that we'll ever make it so that everyone's either created equal or suddenly becomes equal, in any way you choose to understand the word. Of course, as you already pointed out, I think, the concept of equality itself wouldn't make sense anymore but why linger on it? How could there be chaos in perfect order -- that's exactly what you yourself described--? But, again, I'm getting sidetracked here. We can't hope to achieve such a drastic level of change, at least not realistically and reliably in the world we currently inhabit. We can only hope to move towards that goal - but that's all. That's where the dream ends -- in it's hopeful application. Why jump to such unnerving conclusions as you did? Certainly, I wasn't talking about such extremes, not in the least.


1. Read my whole post carefully and understand it.
2. I see it very clearly.

I think your obsession with everyone being created equal is stemmed from an underlying inferiority complex.
Anyway,i'm done with you.
Oh, wow. Raising the white flag so early in the debate? How cute.
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#62
RE: Advance to help Humanity
The idea that "genital mutilation is nice" seems to ignore the definition of nice provided above. It also seems a subtle appeal to subjective morality, which, if that is the case, is inapt. Niceness is not goodness.

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#63
RE: Advance to help Humanity
By "genital mutilation" are we again on the droll subject of circumcision?

I swear........
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#64
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 1:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: The idea that "genital mutilation is nice" seems to ignore the definition of nice provided above. It also seems a subtle appeal to subjective morality, which, if that is the case, is inapt. Niceness is not goodness.

Yeah, I took that and fixed it for him. Should I also point out how I initially thought he meant take a pill and not catch a virus? Your pointing out the obvious doesn't make his initial statement any less sillier. I deliberately took his niceness to mean goodness, since it defied his own context so badly and it was, really, a way too simplistic thing to say for me to take seriously. And yet I take this particular user seriously, most of the times. He seems to me to be a tentative copy of Minimalist, but that's both why I do take him seriously and why, sometimes, I do not - but that's beside the point.

It seems more like a subtle appeal to the subject of relativism, but what do I know?
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#65
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 1:21 am)Kitan Wrote: By "genital mutilation" are we again on the droll subject of circumcision?  

I swear........

I was actually thinking more about forced female genital mutilation in unsanitary environments, if that helps. Although I don't subscribe to any human being, regardless of gender, being forcefully subjected to that, nor do I see the point in anyone doing that to themselves(though that might be their right) - just so we're clear.
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#66
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 10:25 am)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 1:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: The idea that "genital mutilation is nice" seems to ignore the definition of nice provided above. It also seems a subtle appeal to subjective morality, which, if that is the case, is inapt. Niceness is not goodness.

Yeah, I took that and fixed it for him. Should I also point out how I initially thought he meant take a pill and not catch a virus? Your pointing out the obvious doesn't make his initial statement any less sillier. I deliberately took his niceness to mean goodness, since it defied his own context so badly and it was, really, a way too simplistic thing to say for me to take seriously. And yet I take this particular user seriously, most of the times. He seems to me to be a tentative copy of Minimalist, but that's both why I do take him seriously and why, sometimes, I do not - but that's beside the point.

It seems more like a subtle appeal to the subject of relativism, but what do I know?

Let us hope that next time you look up a word before you take issue with its usage.

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#67
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 10:46 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 10:25 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Yeah, I took that and fixed it for him. Should I also point out how I initially thought he meant take a pill and not catch a virus? Your pointing out the obvious doesn't make his initial statement any less sillier. I deliberately took his niceness to mean goodness, since it defied his own context so badly and it was, really, a way too simplistic thing to say for me to take seriously. And yet I take this particular user seriously, most of the times. He seems to me to be a tentative copy of Minimalist, but that's both why I do take him seriously and why, sometimes, I do not - but that's beside the point.

It seems more like a subtle appeal to the subject of relativism, but what do I know?

Let us hope that next time you look up a word before you take issue with its usage.

I knew what the word meant from the very beginning. Thus my asking what he meant by it.
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#68
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 7, 2015 at 9:59 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I'll vote for a popular movement to cut the human population on the earth by 90% over the next 100 years. That's right, the privilege of having babies would become a matter for the U.N. to decide. Illegal breeders would be publicly shamed with a second offense being a capital offense.

But then I woke up.

Larry Niven is that you?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#69
RE: Advance to help Humanity
(August 16, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(August 7, 2015 at 9:59 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I'll vote for a popular movement to cut the human population on the earth by 90% over the next 100 years.  That's right, the privilege of having babies would become a matter for the U.N. to decide.  Illegal breeders would be publicly shamed with a second offense being a capital offense.

But then I woke up.

Larry Niven is that you?

Please provide some context for that. What novel/work of his are you alluding to here? I never knew about this author, I just googled him.
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#70
RE: Advance to help Humanity
More than anything, what we need is an infrastructure built around solar energy. This would be the beginning to solving so many of our problems I don't even want to start counting them.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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