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GOP debate tonight on Fox News
#41
RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
I am loving The Donald right now, because he is giving some of the right wing people the wake up call they needed. My in-laws are conservative, and my wife, although she is much more liberal politically, still votes Republican, too. They're all mystified at the rise of Donald Trump and how he is gaining approval from conservative voters, and I think it's starting to truly dawn on them just what the Republican party is all about. Regardless, he is fracturing the GOP in a similar way that Ross Perot fractured the liberal voting bloc.

Donald Trump is every liberal's wet dream. He wipes away all the fluff and spin that politicians like to put on the American conservative viewpoint and boils it down into the concentrated, weapons grade insanity that it is.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#42
RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
I watched the entire debate and I did not fall asleep, that's a record for me. They are all batshit crazy. A friend called me this morning and said Donald won it hands from the reports on the news. I can't see any Democrat losing to any of these guys. Wouldn't it be funny if Donald wins the White house, I mean scary but still funny as hell.
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#43
RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 11:06 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I think Trump's train ride ended tonight.

He's not on par politically with these clowns. He might actually be the least insane person on that stage, which is a negative in the GOP. Ted Cruz is giving everyone a run for the money on the "who can say the most insane shit ever" gambit.

I think Ted Cruz is the scariest of the bunch. I don't even remember what he said, but when he was saying it - some form of God psycho-babble and returning this country "back on course" -- it was chilling. He'd like nothing more than to turn the US into a Christian theocracy.

From a few years back:

Quote:On the eve of our government shutdown, I wanted to do some research into the theological roots of Senator Ted Cruz, the standard-bearer of the Tea Party Republicans behind the shutdown. I'm interested in understanding what account of Christianity creates the "no compromise" crusade that the Tea Party has become known for. It turns out that Ted's father, Rafael Cruz, is a pastor with Texas charismatic ministry Purifying Fire International who has been campaigning against Obamacare the last several months. He has a distinct theological vision for what America is supposed to look like: Christian dominionism.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/morgan-guy...20537.html

What a rogues gallery the primary debate was! At the "kid's table debate", Santorum was probably the wackiest in an annoying little brother sort of way. Whiny even. He believes in the future cuz he's got 9 kids! How could you have 9 kids and not think things are going to be GREAT? Glad to know his dick is functioning properly. Very important in a President.
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#44
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(August 6, 2015 at 8:59 pm)Cato Wrote: I forgot about it, thanks! Televised political debates, particularly with ten participants, are to debates what the untelevised initial American Idol tryouts are to singing. 

Right now, I'm all in for The Donald. Hell, I'm registered as Independent (not to be confused in NY with the Independent Party, I discovered there is such a thing), I may even change my registration to vote in the Republican primary when I register in Florida after moving towards the end of the year. 

Trump and Sanders are the same in one vital aspect when it comes to earning my vote; integrity. You may not agree with everything or anything that comes out of their mouths, but there's no denying they mean what they say. The rest are "public servants" with a bad case of entitlement and a way of dumbing down their way of speaking to the public. 

This last bit badly grates on my nerves. I don't know quite how to describe it. Don't you know when you're being talked down to? The measured cadence is one sign. Another is the forced inflection on words that must have been highlighted from a stupid focus group. The fact that prepared speeches by educated people are given at a 5th grade reading level is annoying as hell and insulting. 

There's a long time to go, but right now I would love a Sanders vs. Trump race. I doubt seriously either one makes it, but I hope their commitment to the primary runs change the conversation.

I'd rather see Rand Paul, although he does have the whiff of hypocrite about him. Trump, on the other hand, is more a troll, deliberately inflaming folks with his words in order to garner a higher campaign profile; he knows that if the media is talking about you, you'll do better. But the shit he's said about women and immigrants, that shit is repulsive, and his being sincere about those comments only makes them worse, not better.

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#45
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I think calling people who you politically disagree with either 'all crazy' or 'all morons' and the like is pretty close minded. It's okay to reject someone's opinion, obviously, but to not even make an attempt to understand where they are coming from and just dismissing them as crazy, when a third of the country has similar opinions, seems limiting to oneself.
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#46
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(August 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I think calling people who you politically disagree with either 'all crazy' or 'all morons' and the like is pretty close minded. It's okay to reject someone's opinion, obviously, but to not even make an attempt to understand where they are coming from and just dismissing them as crazy, when a third of the country has similar opinions, seems limiting to oneself.
Fuck that. Fuck the racist party of America. They are crazy morons.
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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#47
RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
When do the Democrats have their debate? That should be interesting as well. Lots of Hillary stickers around here.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#48
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(August 6, 2015 at 10:40 pm)Iroscato Wrote: The US electoral college has always bewildered me. How is it you can have a system that enables a candidate to literally have less votes yet still win the election in certain circumstances?

It benefits small states by giving them an out-sized influence in elections.  This is not an accident.

And the beauty of it is that it can't be "unconstitutional" because it is written right into the fucking constitution.

Remember that a shithole like Wyoming has one representative based on population but two senators.  California has 50+ representatives but still only two senators.
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#49
RE: GOP debate tonight on Fox News
(August 6, 2015 at 11:06 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I think Trump's train ride ended tonight.


But...of course you have failed to factor in the batshit wing of the republicunt party.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/drudge-p...id/666039/

Quote:Billionaire Donald Trump is the winner of the Drudge Report Poll taken following the first Republican presidential debate.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz came in second place in the online poll of more than 190,000 Drudge Report visitors, which was taken directly following the debate on Thursday night. The poll only included the candidates who participated in the Fox News debate with the top 10 candidates.


Crazy as fucking loons, the whole lot.
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#50
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According to this TIME poll, 47 per cent of republicunts think Trump won the debate.

http://time.com/3988073/republican-debat...first-gop/
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