Question for Jews

[pgrimes15]

Most Jews today aren't very religious. I'm not sure how an Ultra-Orthodox would respond. Probably something like 'it only applies to our community and we don't have any homosexuals." The same way some Sikhs deny that there are gay Sikhs.

Perhaps I should have made it clear that I meant Jew as in follower of Judaism rather than citizen of Israel. Presumably they do not follow the Mosaic laws about stonings and stuff (think we would have heard about it) so was curious what reason they give for this.

Grimesy

[abaris]

Presumably they do not follow the Mosaic laws about stonings and stuff (think we would have heard about it) so was curious what reason they give for this.

Grimesy

Obviously you don't keep yourself updated on the news. The radicals would. As has been shown just a few days ago by one of the stabbing participants of a gay pride parade. And another incident involving killing of a Palestinian child. Just as with any religious radicals it's only the law and society keeping them in check. But from what I know, they're becoming an increasing problem in certain parts of Jerusalem.

[Pyrrho]

Presumably they do not follow the Mosaic laws about stonings and stuff (think we would have heard about it) so was curious what reason they give for this.

Grimesy

Obviously you don't keep yourself updated on the news. The radicals would. As has been shown just a few days ago by one of the stabbing participants of a gay pride parade. And another incident involving killing of a Palestinian child. Just as with any religious radicals it's only the law and society keeping them in check. But from what I know, they're becoming an increasing problem in certain parts of Jerusalem.

Yes, but why are not all religious Jews doing such things?  Clearly, the god character in their sacred text approves of murder and rape, yet they mostly do not go along with what their writings say that their god approves of.

It is the same with Christians, who do not take their religious texts seriously.

But going back to the OP, what excuses do religious Jews in particular use to explain why it is that they are not stoning adulterers and such things?  That is the question, and no one has really given an answer, beyond saying that they just say the same lame-ass bullshit as Christians.  That may be correct, for all I know, but do we have any religious Jews who can tell us if this is so?  Are the religious Jews as lame and stupid as the Christians?  If not, then they should have a better answer to the question.

[noahide]

But going back to the OP, what excuses do religious Jews in particular use to explain why it is that they are not stoning adulterers and such things?  

I'm just a noahide, so maybe i'm wrong but from what I heard Sanhedrin must be established to make such decisions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanhedrin
Also actual stonings were very rare(once every 70 years iirc)

Are the religious Jews as lame and stupid as the Christians?

lol no, you need to have pretty high IQ to study Talmud/Kabbalah

[CapnAwesome]

Most Jews today aren't very religious. I'm not sure how an Ultra-Orthodox would respond. Probably something like 'it only applies to our community and we don't have any homosexuals." The same way some Sikhs deny that there are gay Sikhs.

Perhaps I should have made it clear that I meant Jew as in follower of Judaism rather than citizen of Israel. Presumably they do not follow the Mosaic laws about stonings and stuff (think we would have heard about it) so was curious what reason they give for this.

Grimesy

Well, let me be clear most followers of Judaism, in the United States, are not very religious. My mother's family is Jewish and under a religion box they would check Jewish, but they are almost as unreligious as I am (I was raised Catholic, for clarity and have never considered myself Jewish in any sense.) For the Ultra-Othodox, they would probably love to follow the old testament laws, but are kept in check by secular governments.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Thank goodness we don't have to put up with nutty Old Testament religious Jews and well as nutty muslims. It really would be hell on Earth.

[thesummerqueen]

Are the religious Jews as lame and stupid as the Christians?

Yes.

[abaris]

I was raised Catholic, for clarity and have never considered myself Jewish in any sense.

Same with me. Both grandfathers have been jewish. Both grandmas have been christian. Not that it makes any difference, since they all weren't very religious. Grandpa never visited any synagogue. The one that I knew, but given what I know about the other one, I doubt he's been different.

But given my family history I've got no choice than to consider myself half jewish. Hitler made sure that I'm left with a pretty small family. Not in any religious sense, of course, but in the sense of what can happen, just because you are born into a certain group.