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Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
#41
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: ..people with a genetic tendency toward depression shouldn't be considered when it come to atheist vs Christians, they can't help how they were born...

Well, then you're going to have to count me out, and I'm guessing if you asked, you'd have to count out most of the atheists here you just used to claim that there is a correlation between atheism and depression.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#42
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 9:30 am)Godschild Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 8:09 am)Nope Wrote: Depression and bipolar disorder is in my genes apparently. Several people in my family are alcoholics or addicted to religion. For them, admitting that you are depressed is a character flaw that Jesus can cure. They put on happy music or throw themselves into church. Sadly, the people closest to them often suffer from their denial. I think that untreated depression is probably as common among Christians as it is atheists but Christians are less likely to seek help or admit that they aren't happy. At least among my religious family and friends, lying to yourself seems to be a shared trait.

I'm not a fan of Focus on the Family but this article is a good description of how hard it is for many Christians to admit that they have a mental disorder.
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/lifechal...ian-family

I must disagree here with what you say, after five plus years here most of the atheist who have come here have express they are currently depressed ( at the time they are here) and some talk about ending their lives, the facts from this forum alone are against your statement Rhonda.

GC

You're wrong.

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#43
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: You need to get a hold of yourself, I wasn't telling anyone how to live I was saying that Christians are less likely to be depressed, I'm among Christians all the time and see how well adjusted most are. So get off your high horse with me.

GC

It turns out just a quick google search shows that a study says you are wrong.

Quote:Even if people's faith in religion makes them feel good right down to their souls, they are still more likely than an atheist to get depressed, according to a new study.

Quote:Those who practised varying religions showed the highest rate of depression - 11.5 per cent - followed by Protestants at 10.9 per cent, those without a specific religion at 10.8 per cent, and Catholics at 9.8 per cent.

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunit...study.html

It seems it is you that needs to climb down from that horse.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#44
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 16, 2015 at 11:32 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 9:30 am)Godschild Wrote: I must disagree here with what you say, after five plus years here most of the atheist who have come here have express they are currently depressed ( at the time they are here) and some talk about ending their lives, the facts from this forum alone are against your statement Rhonda.

GC

You're wrong.
Godschild acknowledged that he was basing this particular statement on assumption in #25. And that he was wrong.
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#45
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 11:14 am)MTL Wrote: I am an Agnostic.  I am also severely depressed.

But if I woke up tomorrow in a world where Religion didn't exist, I'd be a hell of a lot happier.

Why is religion causing your problem.

GC

By no means do I think Religion is the ONLY problem in the world;

But it is one of the biggest causes of trouble;

and it is far and away the most UNNECESSARY and completely avoidable source of trouble in the world.

Religion has always been one of the biggest causes of corruption, abuse, oppression and war...

...what do you mean why is it causing my problem?
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#46
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 16, 2015 at 11:35 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: You need to get a hold of yourself, I wasn't telling anyone how to live I was saying that Christians are less likely to be depressed, I'm among Christians all the time and see how well adjusted most are. So get off your high horse with me.

GC

It turns out just a quick google search shows that a study says you are wrong.

Quote:Even if people's faith in religion makes them feel good right down to their souls, they are still more likely than an atheist to get depressed, according to a new study.

Quote:Those who practised varying religions showed the highest rate of depression - 11.5 per cent - followed by Protestants at 10.9 per cent, those without a specific religion at 10.8 per cent, and Catholics at 9.8 per cent.

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunit...study.html

It seems it is you that needs to climb down from that horse.

I said it was those who I see all the time, I bet if I was to go looking I could find a report that shows the opposite and maybe you should do more research on depression, a lot of depression is found to be related to diet, read Building a Mind.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#47
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 16, 2015 at 5:43 pm)MTL Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why is religion causing your problem.

GC

By no means do I think Religion is the ONLY problem in the world;

But it is one of the biggest causes of trouble;

and it is far and away the most UNNECESSARY and completely avoidable source of trouble in the world.

Religion has always been one of the biggest causes of corruption, abuse, oppression and war...

...what do you mean why is it causing my problem?

You haven't a religious belief so I still do not see why you're blaming religion. What are Christians doing today to cause you to be depressed or the Muslims or any other. The things going on are by murderous animals, sexually sick and the down right selfishness and love of one's on self. If I'm not mistaken the religions of the world condemn these things, just because someone wants to attach a religious name to a crime doesn't mean that particular religion is guilty of any thing.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#48
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Godschild Wrote: Just stay out of my conversations

This is not your conversation GC.

Quote:none of what you said about me and what I said is true, you're an outright liar.

Because you have no honest answer to what he said, you resort to calling him a liar? That's disingenuous.
Quote:This is all I have to say to you, a person who holds a grudge against all Christians because he can't get along with his dad, that's not my fault, you need to get over it and live a normal life, if that's possible by now.

GC
Low blow, GC. So when somebody strikes a nerve, you go below the belt? Maybe it's you who needs to get hold of yourself.

You do not know what things in the past were like between the two of us, he knows I want have a discussion with him because of the things he hates and the way he has allowed them to effect him, you need to discover things about people before condemning one them.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#49
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 6:34 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 11:09 am)Godschild Wrote: Being down and depression are two totally different things, I have continuous back pain, but it doesn't lead me to depression, I understand I will always have it and accept that fact, and yes I've asked God to relieve it from time to time when it gets very bad. True belief in the God of creation could very well be of a great help in your shoulder pain, He could say go to the doctor that I gave the talents to help people heal, don't be stubborn of dumb and sit around in pain.

What I was referring to was all the atheist that are or were here that have sad they have depression, I have a chemical imbalance in my brain that does keep me depressed from time to time and take medication to control it, I have a good Christian doctor who puts me with the best doctors to treat my ailments, they may be Christian doctors or they may not, they all are blessed with talents from God, I believe this because they are always successful at helping me.

GC

Were you just ragging on Atheists for being depressed and then admitted that despite your belief in God you too are depressed? What a crock of shit. I think the abundance of depressed people on these forums has way more to do with internet addiction than Atheism or Theism.

Since we're assuming here, I believe atheist come here to find a way to relieve their depressed fillings, they find others will sympathize with them instead of helping them with truths.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#50
RE: Atheism Doen't Equal Depression
(August 15, 2015 at 10:41 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(August 15, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: You need to get a hold of yourself, I wasn't telling anyone how to live I was saying that Christians are less likely to be depressed, I'm among Christians all the time and see how well adjusted most are. So get off your high horse with me.

GC

Care to provide some evidence there Chief, or are you gonna go with personal testimony and bullshit again?

I gave it in the post, you're just looking for what you want out of my post, as I see it you couldn't care less what's really said.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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