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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 11, 2015 at 10:46 pm
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 12, 2015 at 12:25 am
I was going to post something about hairy Spanish men, but I see above I've already been there.
Sigh, wouldn't mind having one ring the doorbell right now . . .
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 12:33 pm
The reason I made this thread is because when taking about history, all of the evils of the Spanish empires get thrown into the evils of "white history" bit when we talk about Americans of Spanish descent then there a non white group that must be protected. A clear answer to this would be great.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So I have been wondering lately if porteguese and Spanish people are actually considered by some to be white. Now i've met people from both countries and they look pretty dark. But when I read some modern pc writings on history they blame alot of this this kind of racist dynamic white and brown people. I wonna know how this works because alot of the atrocities they blame on western Europe was a result of the porteguese and Spanish. How does this dynamic work without automatically categorizing them as white "dominant" race.
I'm Portuguese and I consider myself a pale skin black man... you know, because of my dick.
What atrocities would those be? Slavery? sure. Killing people to get their gold? yeah. All stuff never done by any other people on Earth. 
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 12:56 pm
(October 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So I have been wondering lately if porteguese and Spanish people are actually considered by some to be white. Now i've met people from both countries and they look pretty dark. But when I read some modern pc writings on history they blame alot of this this kind of racist dynamic white and brown people. I wonna know how this works because alot of the atrocities they blame on western Europe was a result of the porteguese and Spanish. How does this dynamic work without automatically categorizing them as white "dominant" race.
I'm Portuguese and I consider myself a pale skin black man... you know, because of my dick.
What atrocities would those be? Slavery? sure. Killing people to get their gold? yeah. All stuff never done by any other people on Earth.
Every people given the opportunity did it of course. But from revisionist historians you rarely hear about Indian ocean slave trade.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm
(October 21, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (October 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I'm Portuguese and I consider myself a pale skin black man... you know, because of my dick.
What atrocities would those be? Slavery? sure. Killing people to get their gold? yeah. All stuff never done by any other people on Earth.
Every people given the opportunity did it of course. But from revisionist historians you rarely hear about Indian ocean slave trade. *Crickets*
... because you can't dare put "Islam" and "slavery" in the same sentence anymore.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 2:40 pm
(October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: (October 21, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Every people given the opportunity did it of course. But from revisionist historians you rarely hear about Indian ocean slave trade. *Crickets*
... because you can't dare put "Islam" and "slavery" in the same sentence anymore.
You fucking kidding? They still have slaves. Not to mention they traded more slaves then anyone, even the portegeuse.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm
(October 21, 2015 at 2:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: *Crickets*
... because you can't dare put "Islam" and "slavery" in the same sentence anymore.
You fucking kidding? They still have slaves. Not to mention they traded more slaves then anyone, even the portegeuse.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 4:19 pm
If we are talking real color, as opposed to racist labels, I'm red or pale red, and so are many so called white people including English, Irish, Scottish, and others. Some Nordics, (not me and I am ancestorly Nordic and nothing else) hardly ever get red. Spaniards and Portuguese, see, to get as winter pale as me but they don't get as summer red as me. The undertones are more olive. Speaking as an artist Africans are orange black. Indian's flat black, and Polynesians green black. But there are odd variations everywhere. there are some very dark Scots and it doesn't look Negro to me.
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RE: Are Spaniards white?
October 21, 2015 at 5:42 pm
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(October 12, 2015 at 12:25 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I was going to post something about hairy Spanish men, but I see above I've already been there.
Makes me remember the first trip to Spain when I was but 7. When looking at the tour guide I always kept thinking, that's a Spanish ass.
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