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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 24, 2015 at 2:46 pm
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm
(September 24, 2015 at 2:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 24, 2015 at 2:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: Is that the holy ghost?
Oh yeah.
Do you likey??
I imagine some variation of suggesting you blow the Holy Ghost from your backside is incoming
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 24, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Stop reading my mind!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 12:58 am
Sometimes just asking a question gets a reaction like an insult has been offered.
I note the Mormons flat out tell the flock when they issue new or revised edicts, strictures, rules, promulgations, revelations and doctrines the thinking has already been done.
Clearly, they don't want to entertain any questions and the flock is aware they can get in trouble for it.
As for outsiders, it's abundantly clear the LDS hierarchy doesn't want to hear them questioning dogma either.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 1:07 am
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2015 at 1:09 am by Mudhammam.)
I think it's understandable that atheists would be inclined to insult Christians, or any other believer of a sect that says atheists are either obstinate or blind fools who have been conditioned with a disease since birth that demands their so-called souls to be eternally tormented by the Creator of the universe if they don't believe what Christians say (without what they perceive to be sufficient, or valid, evidence) - but I'm not saying that justifies their insults or anything.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 11:32 am
(September 25, 2015 at 1:07 am)Nestor Wrote: I think it's understandable that atheists would be inclined to insult Christians, or any other believer of a sect that says atheists are either obstinate or blind fools… You, Nestor, are neither obstinate or a blind fool. I see you as a generally thoughtful and reflective thinker with a sincere desire to pursue the truth wherever it may lead you. People, regardless of faith or lack thereof, can be stubborn and/or stupid.
I do however believe that the worst representatives of each side make entirely different claims about the worst representatives of the other. The worst atheists call believers irrational deluded and self-righteous sheep. The worst believers call atheists angry embittered libertines. I think there is some truth to those accusations when applied to the right people.
(September 25, 2015 at 1:07 am)Nestor Wrote: …[Christians claim that people]…have been conditioned with a disease since birth that demands their so-called souls to be eternally tormented by the Creator of the universe if they don't believe what Christians say I guess it depends on whether you believe that Man has innate limitations that lead inevitably toward errors of judgment or whether Man is in his natural state perfect but his abilities get compromised by external forces. Christian doctrine rests on the former belief. Even if I were still an atheist I would still consider human beings less than perfect. At the same time, I recognize that social structures can mitigate those errors.
As for your follow-up statement, I do not think there is a clear consensus about the degree to which Christianity is an exclusionary religion. All Christians believe that Christ Jesus is the sole means by which people overcome and achieve victory over sin and death, that much is true, but subsequent (non-essential) doctrines expressing how the Lord administers His saving Grace vary greatly.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 11:36 am
Meh.
Doesn't have his own show.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 11:45 am
(September 25, 2015 at 11:32 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I guess it depends on whether you believe that Man has innate limitations that lead inevitably toward errors of judgment or whether Man is in his natural state perfect but his abilities get compromised by external forces. Christian doctrine rests on the former belief. Even if I were still an atheist I would still consider human beings less than perfect.
In what way, as an atheist, would you have said that man is less than perfect? What is the standard?
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 11:51 am
(September 25, 2015 at 11:32 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (September 25, 2015 at 1:07 am)Nestor Wrote: I think it's understandable that atheists would be inclined to insult Christians, or any other believer of a sect that says atheists are either obstinate or blind fools… You, Nestor, are neither obstinate or a blind fool. I see you as a generally thoughtful and reflective thinker with a sincere desire to pursue the truth wherever it may lead you. People, regardless of faith or lack thereof, can be stubborn and/or stupid.
I do however believe that the worst representatives of each side make entirely different claims about the worst representatives of the other. The worst atheists call believers irrational deluded and self-righteous sheep. The worst believers call atheists angry embittered libertines. I think there is some truth to those accusations when applied to the right people.
(September 25, 2015 at 1:07 am)Nestor Wrote: …[Christians claim that people]…have been conditioned with a disease since birth that demands their so-called souls to be eternally tormented by the Creator of the universe if they don't believe what Christians say I guess it depends on whether you believe that Man has innate limitations that lead inevitably toward errors of judgment or whether Man is in his natural state perfect but his abilities get compromised by external forces. Christian doctrine rests on the former belief. Even if I were still an atheist I would still consider human beings less than perfect. At the same time, I recognize that social structures can mitigate those errors.
As for your follow-up statement, I do not think there is a clear consensus about the degree to which Christianity is an exclusionary religion. All Christians believe that Christ Jesus is the sole means by which people overcome and achieve victory over sin and death, that much is true, but subsequent (non-essential) doctrines expressing how the Lord administers His saving Grace vary greatly.
Great post, Chad!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 25, 2015 at 12:32 pm
(September 25, 2015 at 11:32 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Even if I were still an atheist I would still consider human beings less than perfect. At the same time, I recognize that social structures can mitigate those errors.
No argument here.
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