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The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
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RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
Ummm...must of the time I say nothing. If I do feel compelled to say "bless you" it is because I would feel like a jerk if I don't because I'm the only one there or something. (Like at work in my Catholic hospital)
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#12
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: I say thank you when someone "blesses" me when I've sneezed.

I don't. As someone with allergies - I f-ing hate that on more than one level. When I'm in the middle of a long, violent, incapacitating and embarrassing cavalcade of sneezes - the last thing I want is some sanctimonious c*** bringing up religion...  It's an expression of a bodily function - no need for anyone to say anything, unless they're prepared to exclaim "Hallelujah!" when I yawn, or "Amen!" when I let out a loud, moist fart...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#13
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: I say thank you when someone "blesses" me when I've sneezed.

I say "bless you" or "salud" when someone sneezes.

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#14
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:40 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: I say thank you when someone "blesses" me when I've sneezed.

I say "bless you" or "salud" when someone sneezes.

I say, "Shut the fuck up!" cuzzz I'm an atheist!! Big Grin
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' -Isaac Asimov-
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#15
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
"Away with ye, leper!" Always fits better.
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#16
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:15 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Stereotyping or generalizing people is always bad.
I disagree. If you have to qualify your every observation about cultural tendencies to account for all possible exceptions then many fruitful and interesting conversations would stop before they even start.
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#17
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: I say thank you when someone "blesses" me when I've sneezed.

If you haven't been "blessed" even when you don't sneeze your not getting out enough.

When someone sneezes I'll say "bless you (pause) said the atheist" just for the reaction. Sometimes I regret it.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#18
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Exian Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Kitty Galore Wrote: I say thank you when someone "blesses" me when I've sneezed.

Hell, I'll still say "bless you".

Some of you should learn "gesundheit."  It means "health" and it is wishing the person good health.  Which is what they need if they are sick.

See:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all

It is religion-neutral, fine for both theists and atheists to say.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#19
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:15 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Stereotyping or generalizing people is always bad.  People are individuals and may choose to label themselves under certain banners, but that in no way gives anyone the right to assume what they believe or how they behave without getting to know them personally.

You might want to rethink that.  What you are saying is, when someone labels himself a theist, you would be wrong to "assume" that the person believes in a god.  Of course, it is not an assumption at that point.  It is just taking the person at his word.  If someone is a stupid moron who does not know how to properly label himself, that is a failing of his, not of the people who initially take him at his word.  I will grant you, however, that there are quite of few complete morons who label themselves inaccurately.  Of course, if they are that stupid, when they directly tell you, "I believe X," you would be equally wrong to suppose that you could count on that being true, since the person clearly has no clue what they are talking about.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#20
RE: The Obsession with Discussing the Supposed Rudeness of Atheists
(September 30, 2015 at 12:15 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Stereotyping or generalizing people is always bad.  People are individuals and may choose to label themselves under certain banners, but that in no way gives anyone the right to assume what they believe or how they behave without getting to know them personally.

Agreed. Generalizing is always bad. Even when you're talking about cops, Catholics, Protestants, or Republicans.  Shy
Interestingly enough, no one seems to complain about those generalizations.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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