Objectifying women

[bozo]

Sorry Sae but I was talking about " shared responsibility " as a direct response to what Dotard was bringing to the table. He set scenarios where the criminal act was aided and abetted by the victim.
An exclusive 2-way street if that is how you like to understand it.
As for the the great apple crime, I was understanding your scenario that the man wasn't in work.
Also, begging is sadly very common throughout the major cities of the uk and I assume somebody really desperate could beg enough for a few apples where you live.
It goes without saying that of course I agree that it is outrageous that in the 21st century anybody should have to steal food to exist.

[Violet]

Sorry Sae but I was talking about " shared responsibility " as a direct response to what Dotard was bringing to the table. He set scenarios where the criminal act was aided and abetted by the victim.
An exclusive 2-way street if that is how you like to understand it.

Hmm... it certainly seems more fair to note the victim's responsibility in the matter... I would reiterate points that Dotard and Syna made then

As for the the great apple crime, I was understanding your scenario that the man wasn't in work.

With unemployment as it is, that too is a possibility (that he can be trying desperately to find work, but be unable to). But perhaps he is bussed in to a slaughterhouse illegally to be paid less than minimum wage... or perhaps minimum wage is too low to support his family... or perhaps he has a good paying job, but is neck-deep in credit card debt. I can see all of these creating a situation where a person might have to steal food (or go hungry). :S

Also, begging is sadly very common throughout the major cities of the uk and I assume somebody really desperate could beg enough for a few apples where you live.

Actually... I don't think you really can beg where I live (I don't live in a city). Anchorage certainly... but I've actually rarely see a beggar in Soldotna, Kenai, Ninilchik, or Kasilof. Last beggars I saw was last month, when a man, woman, and young daughter had a sign asking for something (help?) and were standing next to the road leading into Fred Meyer. I've yet to see anyone but myself give money to beggars, but I suppose that it must be much easier to do in big cities? :S

It goes without saying that of course I agree that it is outrageous that in the 21st century anybody should have to steal food to exist.

Indeed :S

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@ Sae;

Your eloquence at outlining my (our) reasoning on this matter is extrodinary. Clear and concise without any 'machoism' creeping into it as it seems to inadvertently do in my, and the other fellas, posts.

Machoism?

Please stop complimenting me: I'm all embarrassed trying to say things such as 'it's not really that good' and 'You guys have done much better imo' without looking silly

Perhaps you truely are 'female'.

(see? there it is again)

That's better ^_^

[tackattack]

Actually pan handling is quite a lucrative job, especially in tourist towns like mine. When I was younger I'd get 30-80 bucks a day for only a few hours work. We'd also intentionally blend in with people truly in need from a physical standpoint, so it'd be impossible to distinguish true need from scamming. The key is usually in the smell.

[Violet]

Actually pan handling is quite a lucrative job, especially in tourist towns like mine. When I was younger I'd get 30-80 bucks a day for only a few hours work. We'd also intentionally blend in with people truly in need from a physical standpoint, so it'd be impossible to distinguish true need from scamming. The key is usually in the smell.

If you can get that much by begging... why give it up?

[bozo]

Actually pan handling is quite a lucrative job, especially in tourist towns like mine. When I was younger I'd get 30-80 bucks a day for only a few hours work. We'd also intentionally blend in with people truly in need from a physical standpoint, so it'd be impossible to distinguish true need from scamming. The key is usually in the smell.

So you used people in need for your own gain? Nice.....do you teach " tactics " at your sunday school, I wonder

[Dotard]

Perhaps you truely are 'female'.

(see? there it is again)

That's better ^_^

DAMNIT! I really hate it when a plan does not come together.....


Plan was;

Sae would respond with "Are you admitting I am a female?"
I would respond "Yes"

Then follow with this tiny diatribe;

And the only people who are blaming women for their rape in this thread are men. Hm, I wonder why that is.

Saerules posts on this matter qualify as a female perspective.
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But it didn't happen. Saerules was not as predictable as I had imagined.

[Purple Rabbit]

But it didn't happen. Saerules was not as predictable as I had imagined.

Could it be that your tremendous ability to fathom the ways of the opposite sex is in need of a serious reality check?

[Dotard]

Could be, yes. It's a logical possibility.

But then again, so is the existance of Gods.

[Purple Rabbit]

Could be, yes. It's a logical possibility.

But then again, so is the existance of Gods.

No comparing since the existence of women has been amply demonstrated throughout evolution.
Or are you implying that your relation with women is as troublesome as your relation with gods?

[tackattack]

@Sae- see the response below

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Actually pan handling is quite a lucrative job, especially in tourist towns like mine. When I was younger I'd get 30-80 bucks a day for only a few hours work. We'd also intentionally blend in with people truly in need from a physical standpoint, so it'd be impossible to distinguish true need from scamming. The key is usually in the smell.

So you used people in need for your own gain? Nice.....do you teach " tactics " at your Sunday school, I wonder

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Actually, yes I use my personal life experiences in my classroom. I was a kid and impetuous. I thought I knew everything, could control everything, and there weren't any consequences for hurting others. I didn't use people in need for my own gain, I didn't discriminate I used everyone. Luckily I grew out of that arrogance and better defined my morals. It was a learning experience, and a good social experiment, but I don't use people anymore. So we went from objectifying women, to my past, and you're inferring an attack on my religion now... hmmm never saw that coming.