Objectifying women

[chasm]

I agree with the fact that people should stop yelling 'objectifying women' every five seconds because the women are choosing to do that. They are not forced. I however draw the line at "a woman is to blame if she's the one raped while wearing sexy clothing". That's just stupid.

[Autumnlicious]

I agree with the fact that people should stop yelling 'objectifying women' every five seconds because the women are choosing to do that. They are not forced. I however draw the line at "a woman is to blame if she's the one raped while wearing sexy clothing". That's just stupid.

Oh no, not again...

[chasm]

I agree with the fact that people should stop yelling 'objectifying women' every five seconds because the women are choosing to do that. They are not forced. I however draw the line at "a woman is to blame if she's the one raped while wearing sexy clothing". That's just stupid.

Oh no, not again...

Not again what?

[Paul the Human]

Not again what?

Most of these 25 pages are an argument about whether or not a woman holds any of the blame for being raped. I believe that's what Syn meant. "Oh, no... not this again!"

[chasm]

Not again what?

Most of these 25 pages are an argument about whether or not a woman holds any of the blame for being raped. I believe that's what Syn meant. "Oh, no... not this again!"

Ah. Well, that notion is pretty stupid... I'll stop with that.

[Cego_Colher]

Woman do have a habit of objectifying themselves or other women. Of course, men objectify women as well (and are sometimes objectified as well) I won't go into the rape thing, but sometimes I don't think skimpy clothing helps with the objectification things. I really don't know about that, though. I'd imagine most of the women screaming that they are being objectified aren't the ones doing all the objectification-like things. I don't know of course, but I would much rather be right about it, because otherwise they are just stupid. On second thought, they might be stupid, anyway.

Well, it's not all women's fault, but it is some. it's not like we have gotten out of sexism in society. (Men are still expected to be 'manly' and such)

I could keep talking rambling about sexism forever so I think I'll stop now.

[Dotard]

Oh no, please do go on.

[Violet]

I agree with the fact that people should stop yelling 'objectifying women' every five seconds because the women are choosing to do that. They are not forced. I however draw the line at "a woman is to blame if she's the one raped while wearing sexy clothing". That's just stupid.

Please start at page one, and read from there...

[Scented Nectar]

Are you suggesting that you can eat without doing harm to what you are eating (and perhaps also yourself)?

No, the opposite. It's often, if not always, impossible to avoid, so I don't have much of an opinion on it.

Negligence is often what we call 'not caring' (or failing to observe), which was likely not intended, and 'just exists' (as you put it). I suppose then, that considering 'vile' to mean 'with the intention to harm another'... I should be considered positively vile for intending to cripple an attacking foe (perhaps to halt their attack, perhaps to put them on the defensive). I should also be called vile for intending to kill and eat anything what might be killed and eaten. Now... I'm fairly certain that you mean for 'vile' to not be used so gaily... perhaps you would like to redefine in a better sense? If you're having difficulties coming up with a workable definition for 'vile' (that follows your intent with the word), you could try outlining several scenarios which you consider to be 'vile', and following their common roots to your likely definition of 'vile'. This is, of course, only a suggestion if you are having difficulties.

The dictionary definition will do. I focused on that word because it was focused on in one of your previous replies.

Context is vital when it comes to leading nations. At times, a terrifyingly brutal military annexation and genocide is a very good answer... perhaps the 'best' decision one can make.

Genocide??? Seriously?

If boulder disasters are not vile... I cannot see how a fair number of rapes, murders, robberies, and what have you are 'vile' either. Explain how one is vile and the other not, and we can evaluate further, without needing me to present superfluous examples under either the definition you sort of gave above, or my definition(s). ^_^

I'm not going to make any effort towards examples.

I would think it vile for someone to forceably cut your hair, and vile for them to forceably prevent you from cutting your own hair. It would also be vile for you to force someone else to cut your hair for you.

And why would that be? Now we see a possibly different definition of 'vile' (one somewhat more akin to my own, but not there yet)... where apparently a vile thing is a thing that is forced.

No, but many forced things happen to be vile in my opinion.

Is the red lover forcing the red hater to be in a brightly lit room with their eyelids glued open and where everything is flourescent red? We are not talking about one person liking sex and one person not. I'm not talking about that, anyways.

Observe:

A is different than B.

A is different than C.

A is different than D.

B ? c ? D.

You can't get more different by changing A + B to A + C. You will likely get a different value... but B and C are not more different to A than D is to A. Just as you cannot become any more the same by such a method. There is no grey area v_v

You completely lost me at 'A is different than B.'

It is indeed possible that all rapists share that characteristic... and I can't see anything to argue about it through my sleep and drug-addled brain. Do you know how difficult it is to stay awake after sleeping pills? ^_^

Very hard to do. It's almost like they make one sleepy or something!

Even after coffee and my um, thought enhancement ciggy, I still don't know the words to make what I mean any clearer.

Perhaps you need more sleep, like me

Yeah, but that's not it. I still won't know the words to use.

I want to give you another huge apology on that one. That was a really shitty mistake for me to have made. I am also very against false accusations of such things, and the nasty stigma that can result. I thought you were actually brave enough to publically admit such a desire and not a vile person since you wouldn't actually do it in real life due to not wanting to hurt someone for real.

Don't apologize ^_^ I found it rather humorous! ^_^

That's good. Some people would probably hate me forever for that one. About 20 years ago, I joked at one guy about how he looks a lot like a sketch of a wanted rapist that was in the paper (he really did, but I said it laughingly). He got very mad and still scowls at me to this day, long after the real guy was caught (Paul Bernardo).

[Violet]

No, the opposite. It's often, if not always, impossible to avoid, so I don't have much of an opinion on it.

Alright alright... I'll let it drop

The dictionary definition will do. I focused on that word because it was focused on in one of your previous replies.

Well the dictionary (this one at any rate) says 'vile' is simply "extremely unpleasant" for its primary definition... and secondaries go on to "morally bad/wicked" and an archaic sentiment of "Of little worth/value". "THE RIGHT WORD" claims that "Most people find criminals who prey on either very old or very young victims to be vile, a more general term for whatever is loathsome, repulsive, or utterly despicable (: a vile killer who deserved the maximum sentence)." As for the definitions of loathsome, repulsive, and utterly despicable... one finds that they are circularly defined (save for despicable, which is defined simply as a thing which evolkes hatred or contempt).

So you see why I have difficulty interpreting 'the dictionary definition'?

Genocide??? Seriously?

Yes. Get rid of the plague that is the Klackon once and for all. Seriously... it is a very effective way to no longer have to deal with a people. In the same vein as eradicating smallpox would mean we no longer have to deal with it.

I'm not going to make any effort towards examples.

Then how can you expect to come to a conclusion... when one of us knows not accurately what is being discussed?

No, but many forced things happen to be vile in my opinion.

Then we are once again at an inability to pinpoint definition

You completely lost me at 'A is different than B.'

I should think that quite obvious. A is A, and B is B... when I state that in this case, A is not also B: A must by tautology be different than B v_v

Very hard to do. It's almost like they make one sleepy or something!

And later induce desires of vomiting. I swear I will not take another for months.

Yeah, but that's not it. I still won't know the words to use.

That's what I am for ^_^

That's good. Some people would probably hate me forever for that one. About 20 years ago, I joked at one guy about how he looks a lot like a sketch of a wanted rapist that was in the paper (he really did, but I said it laughingly). He got very mad and still scowls at me to this day, long after the real guy was caught (Paul Bernardo).

Well he's only hated you 20 years so far ^_^ I must again take my leave to the beach... try not to kill anyone I like, mkie? ^_^