What are the evidence for no god?

[GrandizerII]

No, I don't know what you put faith in. Atheists in general from what I understand has a belief there is no God, gods, etc. Second, there is nothing religious when it comes to theories. Theories are ideas that come from educated guesses. Theories will never be science because it was not observed.  For it to be science, it has to be observed.  Theories are human guesses of how we came into existence.  Gravity was later proven.  Evolution will never be proven because it was never witnessed nor can scientists find the common ape ancestor.  How do you know that God couldn't have created anything out of nothing?  Just because you can't doesn't mean He can't. I think you are too afraid to go beyond logical reasoning and dare to put faith in what you can't see because of your close-mindedness.  How is this for your psychoanalysis?

Theories are part of science, and evolution has been witnessed (yes, it has!). So please, please, listen to what everyone here is saying and go get educated on science and evolution in particular before you have debates about them. You clearly demonstrate a lack of understanding of what evolution is. Posting videos is futile because you don't even understand what the videos purportedly debunk. So how can you trust anything the videos say without first understanding the other side?

I'm using logic to deduce that God could not have created anything out of nothing. If God is not subject to the rules of logic, then this means God can illogically be overpowered or illogically not exist while existing. Is that the kind of God you want to believe in now?

[Blondie]

I think you are too afraid to go beyond logical reasoning and dare to put faith in what you can't see because of your close-mindedness.  How is this for your psychoanalysis?

So, you do believe in fairies and pink elephants. Bigfoot has to be real too, isn't it? We're going beyond logical reasoning after all. Oh yes, you're onlly suspending that for your particular god brand. The one, your church teaches and certainly not any other.

And, again,, I just love to call you ignorant, since you are incabable of even grasping the most simple facts. Noone witnessed it, since it doesn't poof into existence as you believe the earth did. It's a process of millions of years. Years, you don't even think exist.

I don't know, if ignorant is the right word here. Stupid may be more to the point.

Stop being so ignorant.  I can't believe the sheer ignorance of people.  Since it took millions of years as you say, none can witness it, therefore, it is not science or will ever will be.  Excuses to not believe in one thing you can't understand. You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe man's theories when no one was there to witness it.  Man made crap.
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Burden of non-existence also comes on you all.  You can't prove that God doesn't.

So, prove to me, Zeus, Odin and Osiris don't exist. How about Bastet, Loki, Apoll or Saturn? Prove, prove, prove their non existence.

That is why they call it mythology.  It is a myth.  Please educate yourself.  Evolution, Big Bang it is all bullcrap.  But hey, your choice to stay stupid.

[abaris]

Man made crap.

Yup, pretty much.

So answer me, pink elephants and fairies - real?

Odin, Zeus, Apoll, Loki, Bastet - real?

We're suspending logic after all. Prove they're not. Prove Allah's not real, Vishnu and Ganesha. Do that and you're on for some discussion. Otherwise, idiot.

That is why they call it mythology. It is a myth. Please educate yourself. Evolution, Big Bang it is all bullcrap. But hey, your choice to stay stupid.

But you're particular god, farting a universe into existence - totally real. I get it.

[JesusHChrist]

Blondie, have you ever considered embracing Satanism? It really is a LOT of fun!

We are quite the fun, social group. Maybe you can find a local group to join? Wear something sexy though.

Dowdy is not what Lord Satan wants!

[Blondie]

The fact that this God doesn't prove his existence.
This God is Omnicient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent.
This God knows exactly what it will take to make everyone to believe him and can do it.
He doesn't.
Absence of Evidence in this case is Evidence of Absence.

On another note, if everything goes to God's Plan, how do we have Free Will? If we have Free Will, how does everything go to God's plan?

If you have a child, do you want that child to love you because she/he wants to or because you force she/he to love you?  How much fun would you have with someone who is forced to love you versus someone who loves you because they want to?

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The monkey example and the common ape.  Where is the common ape?  Where is the proof that we came from a common ape?  Maybe when the common ape is found, then maybe I will come to another conclusion.  You all will never find the proof that it takes. 

The proof is in every one of us in our DNA. By sequencing and comparing our DNA with that of another sample we can see how much we have in common and how it has since mutated over time. Each mutation of course being really small and what you would call 'micro-evolution'. This is just one way that we can see how we evolved as a species over time. This is also how scientists are able to determine how humans migrated out of Africa and spread around the world for example.

Ancient DNA reveals 'into Africa' migration

We can also compare brain structures because our evolutionary history is revealed by that too.

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[JesusHChrist]

Satan is calling you Blondie. Calling, whispering sweet nothings in your ear.

"Join us!", He says. "Join and learn the mysteries of the Universe!"

Say the Satanic prayer for protection and become One with the Dark Lord! Reject your rotting, filthy Christ!

O Mighty Lord Satan, by whom all things are set free, I cast myself utterly into thine arms and place myself unreservedly under thy all powerful protection. Comfort me and deliver me from all of the hindrances and snares of those who wish to harm me, both seen and unseen.
Visit justice and vengeance upon those who seek my destruction. Render them powerless and devastated. Direct their malice to return upon them tenfold and to destroy them who would resent my being.
Fill my soul with thy invincible power, strengthen me, that I may persevere in my service, and act as an agent of thy works and a vessel of thy will.
This I ask in your name, almighty and ineffable Lord Satan who liveth and reigneth forevermore.
Ave Satanas

[GrandizerII]

The fact that this God doesn't prove his existence.
This God is Omnicient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent.
This God knows exactly what it will take to make everyone to believe him and can do it.
He doesn't.
Absence of Evidence in this case is Evidence of Absence.

On another note, if everything goes to God's Plan, how do we have Free Will? If we have Free Will, how does everything go to God's plan?

If you have a child, do you want that child to love you because she/he wants to or because you force she/he to love you?  How much fun would you have with someone who is forced to love you versus someone who loves you because they want to?

When you say "someone loves you because they want to", what you're really saying is "someone loves you because they are conditioned to". Conditioned love is not forced, though. Generally speaking, it's natural for children to have love for their parents because that's how they're wired biologically and environmentally. You don't need illogical free will for that.

[robvalue]

Well, I've tried having a productive discussion with you Blondie but you're not actually listening to anything anyone says. You're making the same basic mistakes I pointed out ages ago, and you show no interest in actually learning anything. What you are actually doing here, I have no idea. This isn't a competition, it's not a prove-who-is-right fest. This is meant to be a forum for productive discussion.

For one thing, atheists have no duty or interest to "prove there is no God" because it's of no importance to do so. I have no more reason to prove that than to sit around proving the tooth fairy, Santa Claus and the Easter bunny aren't real. You clearly dismiss such things without a second's thought, but you lack the introspection to see that exactly the same thing applies to gods. Just because loads of people believe in them, that doesn't make them any more likely to exist than the other ridiculous things.

And if there is a god, the idea that it just happens to correlate with a story book is even more absurd. If you hadn't had this stuff thrust down your throat all your life, you wouldn't take the bible seriously. It would be another work of fiction.

[Blondie]

Then we are both wrong. I am not dead so I don't know.  I do know I will die happy and in peace beyond any human understanding.

But what of the real god shows mercy and is understanding of the atheist position whilst he is infuriated that you worshiped a mockery of him? What if the Hindus are right and they recarnate you as a street dog because of how you choose to spread ignorance.

It depends on which god you are talking about?  You are talking about the Islamic god, me and you both ain't got a chance because that is a cruel god that is a statue and a stone.  If you are referring to Buddha, etc (statue gods), what is a hunk of metal going to do when it is man-made.  On paganism, What if there is only one God and His commandment was to only worship Him, but you choose to have other idols? Idols are man made items that you spend alot of time with.  A computer, tv, etc can be idols if you make the.  Hindus people would rather starve to death before killing a cow because of their beliefs.  They are afraid to get rid of diseased rodents because of their beliefs so they decide to keep them around to get sick. Really smart there. What if they recarnate me as a dog or a flea? It is not going to happen because it is bull crap.  People like you are so closedminded, it is a wonder you even got an education.

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Then we are both wrong. I am not dead so I don't know.  I do know I will die happy and in peace beyond any human understanding.

But what of the real god shows mercy and is understanding of the atheist position whilst he is infuriated that you worshiped a mockery of him? What if the Hindus are right and they recarnate you as a street dog because of how you choose to spread ignorance.

If it is my God that you are referring to, if you don't accept Jesus, then it is too late when you die.  He knows that you choose to live a life of rejection.  Hindus ain't gonna do nothing.  They are ignorant.  They would watch a cow roam the streets there and starve then kill it to have something to eat.  Rodents spread diseases, but the Hindus will sleep in the same bed with them thinking that could be uncle Ralph.  Gimmie me a break.  That makes as much sense to me as much as stupid people do.

[Angrboda]

What if the Hindus are right and they recarnate you as a street dog because of how you choose to spread ignorance.

... What if they recarnate me as a dog or a flea? It is not going to happen because it is bull crap.  People like you are so closedminded, it is a wonder you even got an education.

Pot, meet kettle.