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Vain, or Humble?
October 22, 2015 at 11:00 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2015 at 11:02 pm by Heat.)
So I have an interesting question for you fellow Atheists,
Do you think that the religious people who claim to speak to god, or have a relationship with god are Vain, or Humble?
Since we, as Atheists, and basically any other religious person, believe anyone claiming to "talk to god" or if you're religious, anyone claiming to talk to the god that is not yours;
we believe these people are basically just talking to a voice in their head, and nothing else.
Therefore, is it vain for them to praise god? Since they are technically praising themselves?
Or is it Humble, because they are showing a low estimate of their own self importance, and are praising what they think is someone besides themselves that is important enough to be worth praising?
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 22, 2015 at 11:12 pm
I think they are egotistical shitheads.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 22, 2015 at 11:18 pm
Self deluded sprang to mind first.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 22, 2015 at 11:28 pm
I don't know about people who talk to god.
What I do believe is extremely vain/egotistical is when someone believes the world is going to end during their lifetime. Everyone who has ever believed this and died has been proven wrong. So, a person who really thinks the world is going to end during their lifetime either thinks 1) they are smarter than those people who died before, or 2) that they have new information that people before didn't have, which really turns into (1) because it then follows that they know how much information is necessary to not be mistaken. People aren't just happy being one of the chosen few in god's club, they actually think they're special enough to be one of the ones that gets to see the earth at it's worst, who gets to be there right at the end and see jesus or god or something in person. Self-aggrandizing dumbasses.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 22, 2015 at 11:32 pm
(October 22, 2015 at 11:28 pm)TRJF Wrote: I don't know about people who talk to god.
What I do believe is extremely vain/egotistical is when someone believes the world is going to end during their lifetime. Everyone who has ever believed this and died has been proven wrong. So, a person who really thinks the world is going to end during their lifetime either thinks 1) they are smarter than those people who died before, or 2) that they have new information that people before didn't have, which really turns into (1) because it then follows that they know how much information is necessary to not be mistaken. People aren't just happy being one of the chosen few in god's club, they actually think they're special enough to be one of the ones that gets to see the earth at it's worst, who gets to be there right at the end and see jesus or god or something in person. Self-aggrandizing dumbasses. I'm just going to let someone else reply to you since i cant really be bothered proving claims as idiotic as the ones you just made wrong.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 23, 2015 at 9:13 am
??? To what, praytell, do you refer?
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 23, 2015 at 9:22 am
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2015 at 10:01 am by ApeNotKillApe.)
It's Orwellian corruption of language, altering the meaning of words and by doing so changing how people think.
WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH, ARROGANCE IS HUMBLE, SEXLESSNESS IS PURITY, POVERTY IS WEALTH, OBEDIENCE IS MORALITY
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 23, 2015 at 9:42 am
Read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins. There is a literal evolutionary reason god claims exist, having nothing to do with any real god existing. Our species perceptions of reality are notoriously flawed. God claims are no different than the butterfly in the inkblot.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 23, 2015 at 9:43 am
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Vain, pretending to be humble.
At the very least, they are acknowledging how special they are to get particularly good treatment.
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RE: Vain, or Humble?
October 23, 2015 at 9:45 am
It seems the more devout someone is, the less humble they are, because they're less likely to be able to just live and let live.
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