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Programming Language Swift Poll

Poll: Will you use Swift?
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I am Using it now
33.33%
 2 33.33%
I am Learning It
0%
 0 0%
I am Planning to Use it
0%
 0 0%
I don't code or program so no
50.00%
 3 50.00%
I am planning to learn it
16.67%
 1 16.67%
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Programming Language Swift Poll
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Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 7:47 pm
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 9:48 pm (This post was last modified: November 1, 2015 at 9:53 pm by bennyboy.)
Fuck no.

I already hate Apple-- their closed doors, their fucking locks, blocks and limits, their history of trying to force their vision of how things should be used on their consumers.

Now, they are going to make a language that tells people how to fucking program.  No.  Just no.

What they SHOULD do is run a c or java environment, and provide SDK libraries for the specific features they offer.  Instead, we get this condescension:

Quote:Swift combines the best in modern language thinking with wisdom from the wider Apple engineering culture.
Why is it that a non-zero number of people can't see how fucking douche-y Apple is and always has been?


Also, you have the shittiest poll ever made for a forum. How do you ask "Are you going to use it?" and the only no answer requires me to say that I don't program? I'm starting to think you might be an Apple employee.
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 9:58 pm
My husband says....basically what Bennyboy just said.


To clarify his thoughts, he knows C, C++, Java, Javascrip, Python, C#, and some other things like HTMLCSS. He tends to learn as many as he can, but only USEFUL languages. He says it is stupid to learn a language that is not only platform specific, but also somewhat device specific.

So, to echo Bennyboy...Fuck no!
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 10:09 pm
--edit--

Wait a minute. . . now I'm starting to second-guess my first response. Maybe Shining_Finger was being cleverly ironical, and the poll was meant to be a reflection on the oppressive culture which Apple has always imposed on its users and even more on developers. In which case-- touchee, and SF is a genius.
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 10:40 pm
(November 1, 2015 at 10:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: --edit--

Wait a minute. . . now I'm starting to second-guess my first response.  Maybe Shining_Finger was being cleverly ironical, and the poll was meant to be a reflection on the oppressive culture which Apple has always imposed on its users and even more on developers.  In which case-- touchee, and SF is a genius.

Ah, perhaps so, since all of his options are basically "yes", with one exception for non-programmers.
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 1, 2015 at 10:48 pm
(November 1, 2015 at 10:40 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(November 1, 2015 at 10:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: --edit--

Wait a minute. . . now I'm starting to second-guess my first response.  Maybe Shining_Finger was being cleverly ironical, and the poll was meant to be a reflection on the oppressive culture which Apple has always imposed on its users and even more on developers.  In which case-- touchee, and SF is a genius.

Ah, perhaps so, since all of his options are basically "yes", with one exception for non-programmers.

Smile

I think we can agree, though, that whether SF is a genius or an Apple fanboy, we all here are still in the "fuck no" crowd.
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November 1, 2015 at 11:38 pm
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 2, 2015 at 2:36 am
If my employer of 16+ years insisted upon using it, I would, but I would seriously reconsider my plans of staying with them until retirement. I'm not a fan of proprietary tools and vendor lock-in.

Fortunately, we don't do IOS apps and I have some influence as to the tools we use in any case.
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RE: Programming Language Swift Poll
November 2, 2015 at 2:54 am (This post was last modified: November 2, 2015 at 2:55 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
I don't intend to ever use any Apple programming language. Can't stand their products or the cult(ure).

The only way I would is if I had my own business that produced an app that was successful and I wanted to port a native version to IOS.
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November 2, 2015 at 9:01 am
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