Muslim Immigration & the Fall of Europe

[Dystopia]

Please, I made very specific questions about specific topics and you are still strawmanning. What the hell do you know about my political opinions anyway? Do you have enough evidence to make claims about who I am politically? Do you know my ideal model of society and how liberal or conservative I am?

Well, based on what you say here, as I pointed out. The parties you like, the policies you promote, the kind of blanket statements you like to make, as can be seen by the "impartial" rest of your post, which I'm not going to quote and won't grace with any reply.

I currently am not a fan of any party in particular, I feel like my views aren't proper represented by any party because everyone has some views I loathe. I know liberals have a tendency to label anyone who disagrees as a far-right racist, but c'mon. You're smarter than that. You're accusing me of having certain political opinions because I disagree with a topic that the majority of society and media agrees with, the same way I don't believe in god and live in a society where most people do.

I was talking about citizenship because, if you're going to request naturalization, you have to prove you have adopted the culture and French values, etc - How are these people given citizenship if they spouse terrorism? Would you give citizenship to a terrorist?

[Excited Penguin]

Dystopia, only regressive liberals do that. Yes, we have a name for them now. I would argue we shouldn't even waste any time on them. These people border on insanity in some cases.

[Iroscato]

So many fucking labels these days. I have trouble keeping up.

[Dystopia]

So many fucking labels these days. I have trouble keeping up.

Coming from someone who labels himself "Kaiser", now that's a label 

[abaris]

So many fucking labels these days. I have trouble keeping up.

On another note, I would love for some of our theists to finally notice that I'm happy to have nothing in common with some atheists. Other than not believing.

[Dystopia]

So many fucking labels these days. I have trouble keeping up.

On another note, I would love for some of our theists to finally notice that I'm happy to have nothing in common with some atheists. Other than not believing.

It would be very boring if we all had the same opinion, there would be no dissent or discussion. At least I provide a good opportunity for mainstream liberals to debate.

I do think we might have some things in common - Aren't you a supporter of worker's rights, gay marriage and pro-choice?

[jeebusmubummed]

I think some of you are failing to see the obvious. Islam is the motivation behind not only most of the terrorist attacks in the western world but also untold savagery the world over. and the only religion still completely opposed to secularism. Christians Buddhists Hindus etc have all accepted secularism by and large not completely but by and large. The only theocracies are Islamic. These theocracies and countries with Islamic jurisprudence directly correspond with the % of population which is Muslim. So it stands to reason, the more Muslims within any country, the closer it becomes to having blasphemy laws, apostasy laws etc... It is very rational to want to keep that away from ones society who values secularism and freedom.

 Given the higher Muslim birthrates and the declining birthrates of natives it stands to reason that the demographics of Muslims will become a powerful voting bloc eventually and once that happens, secularism will give way to laws aimed at appeasing Muslim religious sensibilities. They already have sharia courts for civil matters among Muslims. That is a slippery slope that will get steeper as their population % increases.

 Another thing is their influence among natives and other immigrants will increase. The population of Muslims alone cant be looked at in a vacuum. They will convert others on top of their own demographic increase. Daawa is their duty. If you value secularism, Islamic migration should scare the hell out of you. Its really not even about the terrorists. Its about the biggest threat to secularism in the world. If you cant see that then please take your head out of the sand.

[Excited Penguin]

jeebus, you're fucking right. Some are just too naive to accept this. Let's hope we don't pay the price for that.

[Heat]

Low estimation of 1.2 Billion muslims.

I don't care what they believe. 1.2 Billion people are not violent, and hateful.
So shut the fuck up with your assumptions. You're the one spreading the hatred. Not them.

[Heat]

I think some of you are failing to see the obvious. Islam is the motivation behind not only most of the terrorist attacks in the western world but also untold savagery the world over. and the only religion still completely opposed to secularism. Christians Buddhists Hindus etc have all accepted secularism by and large not completely but by and large. The only theocracies are Islamic. These theocracies and countries with Islamic jurisprudence directly correspond with the % of population which is Muslim. So it stands to reason, the more Muslims within any country, the closer it becomes to having blasphemy laws, apostasy laws etc... It is very rational to want to keep that away from ones society who values secularism and freedom.

 Given the higher Muslim birthrates and the declining birthrates of natives it stands to reason that the demographics of Muslims will become a powerful voting bloc eventually and once that happens, secularism will give way to laws aimed at appeasing Muslim religious sensibilities. They already have sharia courts for civil matters among Muslims. That is a slippery slope that will get steeper as their population % increases.

 Another thing is their influence among natives and other immigrants will increase. The population of Muslims alone cant be looked at in a vacuum. They will convert others on top of their own demographic increase. Daawa is their duty. If you value secularism, Islamic migration should scare the hell out of you. Its really not even about the terrorists. Its about the biggest threat to secularism in the world. If you cant see that then please take your head out of the sand.

Oh yes, let's oppress all muslims, for the sake of peace!
Excellent logic you have right there. Can't understand how people aren't getting your message.