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Evidence of ET?
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 (December 19, 2015 at 12:17 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see why ET life would be in opposition to theism at all... It may not disprove generic theism but it would certainly disprove Catholicism: Quote:717c (3) Condemned Error: That God created another world than this one, and that in its time many other men and women existed and that consequently Adam was not the first man. http://patristica.net/denzinger/ Of course, there are other arguments against generic theism. 
I think it's funny that people are trying to tell me that it's against my religion to believe that ET life is possible lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh RE: Evidence of ET?
December 19, 2015 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2015 at 11:03 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 19, 2015 at 3:19 am)Stimbo Wrote:(December 19, 2015 at 12:17 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see why ET life would be in opposition to theism at all... I don't see why. I've been an involved Christian my whole life and this thread on an atheist forum is the only time I have ever even heard it being suggested that there would be any conflict at all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
Well, I did say "might". It really comes down to how literally we're meant to take the bible, kerrang or whatever. You know, that whole crystal sky dome with the stars being tiny lights fixed to it. Doesn't really leave a whole lot of room for EBEs.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 19, 2015 at 11:10 am)Stimbo Wrote: Well, I did say "might". It really comes down to how literally we're meant to take the bible, kerrang or whatever. You know, that whole crystal sky dome with the stars being tiny lights fixed to it. Doesn't really leave a whole lot of room for EBEs. I don't know a single person who believes in the sky dome.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Doesn't matter. It's in the book, whether you believe it or not. Which comes under the part where I said it depends on "how literally we're meant to take it".
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Exactly. It depends on how literally people take it. No one now a days takes the Old Testament so literally that they believe in a sky dome. I mean, I'm sure if you google it you'll find some people out there who do, as you'll find people out there for everything. But this is by no means some sort of mainstream, common, Christian belief. And so I object to the notion that ET life is in conflict with modern Christianity.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
On the basis of this, discovery of/contact with ET life would be in conflict with the book verion of the religion. Which would be the bit that would require explaining by whomever's job it is to do such things.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 19, 2015 at 11:41 am)Stimbo Wrote: On the basis of this, discovery of/contact with ET life would be in conflict with the book verion of the religion. Which would be the bit that would require explaining by whomever's job it is to do such things. That would be an extremely small percentage of people.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  Quote:Exactly. It depends on how literally people take it. Galileo and Bruno would be glad to hear that.....now. |
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