Intelligent Design

[Pat Mustard]

Sorry if I'm way off with what the video is going to be about, but I'm sure you can understand that I don't want to spend an hour of my time watching a video. If not, then you should watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMkMBXAVZ8

You want us to watch a video from a creatard preacher who constantly lies about his education.?Mr Patton says he got a PhD in arcaeology ( note this isn't even a relevant discipline for expertise in evolutionary theory) from Queensland Christian University, an institution which doesn't even appear to exist, never mind be accredited to award degrees.

So we're supposed to take the word of a professional liar with no knowledge in the relevant area? You got to do a lot better Junk Status.

[Rhondazvous]

Yeah, we all get a bit battle weary fighting the BS all the time.
If you get a chance, watch that ID vid AAA linked to.
I counted about 10 fallacies in the first few minutes ...I had to stop watching ... I was feeling a coma coming on...

Daddy, when somebody says they have a video, book or website that will prove to you that 2 plus 2 equals 5, what do you expect to find?

It’s circular reasoning: I believe god created the world. Therefore the world was created. Now that I’ve established that the world was created, only god could have created it. Correction: only my god could have created it. But he couldn’t create the world if he doesn’t exist and since I’ve already shown clear argument that he did create the world, he must exist.

That’s my proof that my god exists. You can’t get out of the circle, so just accept it.

[Rhondazvous]

Sorry if I'm way off with what the video is going to be about, but I'm sure you can understand that I don't want to spend an hour of my time watching a video. If not, then you should watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMkMBXAVZ8

You want us to watch a video from a creatard preacher who constantly lies about his education.?Mr Patton says he got a PhD in arcaeology ( note this isn't even a relevant discipline for expertise in evolutionary theory) from Queensland Christian University, an institution which doesn't even appear to exist, never mind be accredited to award degrees.

So we're supposed to take the word of a professional liar with no knowledge in the relevant area? You got to do a lot better Junk Status.

How very insulting. So you think your time is too precious to waste watching a Creationist video. Much more precious than ours?

Are you running for president of the crappy futhermuckers club, or what? Guess you plan to put your posts here on your curriculum vitae. PM any one of us if you need references.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

You told us what you believed.  For example..you believe that change and mutation are facts.  You believe that natural selection is a fact.  That -is- the theory of evolution.

Is it tinfoil hat time?

That is not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution, at least the one I am arguing against is that we share one common ancestor and that life could start from molecules. If that is how we will define evolution, then all species will eventually be unfit once enough mutations accumulate to degrade the functions of the genomes.

Wrong.

Socially questionable and somewhat rare as this may be (excepting royal families), you can in perfect safety have children by your second cousin, without concern for duplicative enhancement of genetic defects. On the great, ever-sprawling tree, the map to where you and your cousins are would be miles wide, but the distance between you and your cousin would still be a tiny dot's width!

Bad mutations don't accumulate any faster than good ones. Bullshit disposed of.

[Cyberman]

Plus it's interesting to compare that with the Abrahamic version of one common ancestor mating with a genetic copy of himself, producing two male offspring. Definitely no genetic bottleneck there.

[Pat Mustard]

Great - give us his name and whatever other information we can use to check out the story.

Richard M. Sternberg. I would go to his personal site, RichardSternberg.com, to get the most direct source of his explanation of his mistreatment.

Sternberg didnt write the paper, idiot. He was editor of the journal which publised it. He shouldn't have authorised publication for these reasons:
1) The paper had nothing new, just a lit review of previously debunked pseudoscience.
2) He reviewd the paper himself, he had no relevat expertise
3) He reviewd it himelf, he was taking money from a creatard group, the 'discovery institute', he had an obvious conflict of interest in seeing it published favourably
4) He was not blind reviewing it, peer review should be double blind, that neither the reviwer nor the author should know the other.

If he got into trouble it was deserved. Truly you deserve the monitor Junk Status, you arse brained creatard idiot.

[Cyberman]

Creationist claims tend to fall into two categories. Those which are too vague to take seriously; and those which fall apart under investigation. I'm rather backing Intuitional Science at this point.

[downbeatplumb]

That is not the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution, at least the one I am arguing against is that we share one common ancestor and that life could start from molecules. If that is how we will define evolution, then all species will eventually be unfit once enough mutations accumulate to degrade the functions of the genomes.

Evolution does not demand that we came from one common ancestor,
It looks like we do but that is an observation and not part of the process itself. Life starting from molecules would be abiogenesis not evolution. I also see how you don't know how mutations act within the theory. I am a product of an English education system where they taught us properly, I take it by your poor understanding of very basic biology you are an American.

[downbeatplumb]

Lol sure! Did I get a bit carried away there? Better get off my soapbox

Well, if they're called healing crystals, they must be magic so I'll take 20k.

You just need to realign your Chakras.

[Cyberman]

Please - not outside A69. There might be a lady present.