Rule Change (New Staff Power)

[Excited Penguin]

I think I didn't get properly warned. But this thread isn't about me or my ban. Can we stop talking about it, in the hope that I won't get banned again for "derailing" a thread?

I'll stop discussing it when you stop lying.

Here you don't have the chance to defend yourself. If the staff thinks you acted badly, you're going to get banned no matter what. Are we to assume the staff is always right about everything?

This is a lie.

I am ready to defend those statements if you can approach the conversation in a different manner.

[Excited Penguin]

I am risking getting banned merely for responding to you right now, since it could be labeled once again as firebombing a thread. So please, let's stop from discussing me and focus on this new rule. Thank you very much.

[Losty]

You act like you got banned unfairly, save it for someone who wasn't here to see your behavior.

[Brian37]

Holy crap dude, I think you are simply looking to be paranoid for no good reason.

Even in real life outside the web, courts have judges, judges often have sidebars with lawyers the gallery does not hear. Even judges can ponder a case inside chambers in private. There is no funny business going on here.

The analogy with the courts is very bad. Here you don't have the chance to defend yourself. If the staff thinks you acted badly, you're going to get banned no matter what. Are we to assume the staff is always right about everything?

You are making the assumption pms are not used to send a message or to allow those pulled over to make a case. You are assuming they are going to take action on a single peep. I have never seen them take quick action outside of spammers and sock puppets. I have no doubt that if someone has been banned, it was  over time and thoroughly discussed before action is taken.

Now, I have been an admin and mod on other websites, I am currently an admin on one FB page. I can tell you this page has a staff that goes out of it's way to be fair. 

Now again, do not confuse this as being your property. We are still guests here. But even with that, I have yet to see any action they have taken as a sudden public execution with no warning. You are not going to get a utopia here, but you also will not get me to think they are going to be abusive.

[Losty]

I am risking getting banned merely for responding to you right now, since it could be labeled once again as firebombing a thread. So please, let's stop from discussing me and focus on this new rule. Thank you very much.

Page 55 I think the rule has been talked to death

But sure, what about it?

[Excited Penguin]

You act like you got banned unfairly, save it for someone who wasn't here to see your behavior.

You continue to insult me. I have no choice but to block you. I am not interested in this conversation if you can't stay on topic and throw around accusations without supporting them.

[Losty]

You lied about how things are handled by the staff here. Back that shit up with some evidence.

[Excited Penguin]

The analogy with the courts is very bad. Here you don't have the chance to defend yourself. If the staff thinks you acted badly, you're going to get banned no matter what. Are we to assume the staff is always right about everything?

You are making the assumption pms are not used to send a message or to allow those pulled over to make a case. You are assuming they are going to take action on a single peep. I have never seen them take quick action outside of spammers and sock puppets. I have no doubt that if someone has been banned, it was  over time and thoroughly discussed before action is taken.

Now, I have been an admin and mod on other websites, I am currently an admin on one FB page. I can tell you this page has a staff that goes out of it's way to be fair. 

Now again, do not confuse this as being your property. We are still guests here. But even with that, I have yet to see any action they have taken as a sudden public execution with no warning. You are not going to get a utopia here, but you also will not get me to think they are going to be abusive.

You're jumping to conclusions here. I am not trying to get you think they are abusive, merely that they can make mistakes and if they're interested in making less mistakes, I propose certain courses of actions, as humbly as possible.

No matter how much consideration or discussion is involved prior to banning someone, it is all behind closed doors. A person who reports something is in that case the accuser, and the accused doesn't get the chance to defend himself prior to getting banned. Not to mention there is no use of the current warning system that I can see. Now when the staff comes and looks at the reported posts or content they might very well be biased against someone, even collectively. That is a possibility, I think you'll agree.

[Edwardo Piet]

Lube and a cactus is not an insult, don't knock it until you've tried it EP.

[Brian37]

I don't know what anyone is objecting to. All privately owned social media has admins and moderators, this website is no different, say for the fact they are not Nazis who boot at a peep. There have been many heated exchanges, lots of ridicule and I see those same people still here.

I think some here are simply getting worked up over nothing.