one of the proofs that god exist

[KichigaiNeko]

@ the void
they thought that in 2005 but this is in 2010

Instead of behaving like a perfect gas, in which every quark goes its own way independent of the others, the plasma seemed to act like a liquid. “It was a very big surprise,” Dr. Vigdor said, when it was discovered in 2005. Since then, however, theorists have revisited their calculations and found that the quark soup can be either a liquid or a gas, depending on the temperature


It is now thought that the plasma would have to be a million times more energetic to become a perfect gas. That is beyond the reach of any conceivable laboratory experiment, but the experiments colliding lead nuclei in the Large Hadron Collider outside Geneva next winter should reach energies high enough to see some evolution from a liquid to a gas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/scienc....html?_r=1

if they discovered that the quark-gluon plasma is a fourth state of matter it is also considered (dukhan) which as i mentioned before its a general word that refers to any state of matter that is not liquid or solid

Errrrmmm

Sorry buddy but at least 5 other religions can claim that ...they called it "ether"...and most of them did not know your desert god.

[mo3taz3nbar]

The Summerians, who pre-date Mohummad, thought the stars must have been very hot, and science didn't know that the stars were burning gas until over 4000 years later, so this is proof that the numerous summerian gods are all real! How else would they guess the stars were hot?

*Sorry guys but a quick interjection...

The Sumerians predate Muhammad....yes??

So mo3 all your Qua-ran can claim (with any logical veracity) is that it is just a rehash of an older religion / belief system as understood by a goat herder (aka a simple man with no education) in the Arabian Deserts:.....
just like the Torah.

Thanks guys.

to make theories about things they see is different than talking about something that you know nothing about and never saw before if you want to do the logical thing you have to put a probability of getting a theory correct by chance especially regarding things that have only 2 possibilities. you are welcome if you want to do this.

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Sorry buddy but at least 5 other religions can claim that ...they called it "ether"...and most of them did not know your desert god.

plz explain or give me the link that talks about this

[theVOID]

depending on the temperature

There is your keyword dumbass, the higher the temperature the more liquid-like the behaviour of the Quark-Gluon plasma, given the high density of the early universe - It is actually a combination of prevalence of the electromagnetic force, the temperature and the density of the early universe that was responsible for the plasma behaving as a liquid and not a gas.

Also, We know that Quark-gluon plasma begins to act as a liquid at upwards of 4000 Deg C,(given appropriate density) we also know that the beginning of the universe had temperatures over 10^32, well over the temperature where Quarks can even exist, let alone form into plasma and even further removed from your 'Gas'.

It is now thought that the plasma would have to be a million times more energetic to become a perfect gas.

Reasons why you are wrong (again):

1. Perfect Gas ≠ Liquid Plasma
2. The density of the early universe was too great for gasses to form
3. The Plank Epoch was too hot and too dense for any matter at all to form, so it doesn't make a shit bit of difference what state of matter you want this Dukhan to represent, you're still wrong.

That is beyond the reach of any conceivable laboratory experiment, but the experiments colliding lead nuclei in the Large Hadron Collider outside Geneva next winter should reach energies high enough to see some evolution from a liquid to a gas.

Temperatures at the LHC ≠ Temperatures at Electroweak Epoch
Heat scale: Plasma > Gas > Liquid > Solid

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/scienc....html?_r=1

Great source material there, especially awesome in the opening paragraph:

"Physicists said Monday that they had whacked a tiny region of space with enough energy to briefly distort the laws of physics"

if they discovered that the quark-gluon plasma is a fourth state of matter it is also considered (dukhan) which as i mentioned before its a general word that refers to any state of matter that is not liquid or solid

1. It's not a matter of "IF"... Plasma IS a 4th state of matter.
2. So Allah basically just said that the early universe was neither solid nor liquid... Big fucking deal. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of religions don't believe that the universe was initially solid or liquid either.

[KichigaiNeko]

The Summerians, who pre-date Mohummad, thought the stars must have been very hot, and science didn't know that the stars were burning gas until over 4000 years later, so this is proof that the numerous summerian gods are all real! How else would they guess the stars were hot?

*Sorry guys but a quick interjection...

The Sumerians predate Muhammad....yes??

So mo3 all your Qua-ran can claim (with any logical veracity) is that it is just a rehash of an older religion / belief system as understood by a goat herder (aka a simple man with no education) in the Arabian Deserts:.....
just like the Torah.

Thanks guys.

to make theories about things they see is different than talking about something that you know nothing about and never saw before if you want to do the logical thing you have to put a probability of getting a theory correct by chance especially regarding things that have only 2 possibilities. you are welcome if you want to do this.

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Sorry buddy but at least 5 other religions can claim that ...they called it "ether"...and most of them did not know your desert god.

plz explain or give me the link that talks about this

No theory baby boy....no theory.

Are you sure you want the links??

Look up Witchcraft, Paganism :look up Sumerians, Mesopotamians, Babylonians yourself; and follow the links...amazing reading.....stop being so lazy and DO some research yourself. or Is it against your religion??

Please don't display your ignorance in this way...it is not a good thing for you.

[Caecilian]

The beginning of an Egyptian creation myth:

In the beginning there was only the swirling watery chaos, called Nu. Out of these chaotic waters rose Atum, the sun god of the city of Heliopolis. It is believed that he created himself, using his thoughts and will. In the watery chaos, Atum found no place on which to stand. In the place where he first appeared, he created a hill.

Full text here.

The beginning of the Babylonian creation myth:

When on high the heaven had not been named,
Firm ground below had not been called by name,
When primordial Apsu, their begetter,
And Mummu-Tiamat, she who bore them all,
Their waters mingled as a single body,
No reed hut had sprung forth, no marshland had appeared,
None of the gods had been brought into being,
And none bore a name, and no destinies determined--
Then it was that the gods were formed in the midst of heaven.
Lahmu and Lahamu were brought forth, by name they were called.

Full text here.

And finally, the beginning of the islamic creation myth:

In the time before time, God was. And when God wants to create something, all he needs to say is "Be", and it becomes. So it was that God created the world and the heavens. He made all the creatures, which walk, swim. Crawl and fly on the face of the earth. He made the angels, and the sun, moon and the stars to dwell in the universe. And consider, as the Qur'an says, how God poured down the rain in torrents, and broke up the soil to bring forth the corm, the grapes and other vegetation; the olive and the palm, the fruit trees and the grass.

Full text here.

All of these accounts are myths which have no scientific content whatsoever. Wishful thinking can be used to impute scientific content into any of them. For example:

Watery chaos? Thats like plasma!! The Ancient Egyptians knew about advanced physics!!

Apsu and Mummu-Tiamat? Thats a reference to matter and antimatter (or positive and negative charges...or whatever)!! The Ancient Babylonians knew about advanced science!!

The bullshit that mo3 is spouting is every bit as nonsensical as the two comments above.

[theVOID]

Watery Chaos - That is going to be the name of my solo guitar project

[Autumnlicious]

The amount of effort TheVoid puts into educating mo3tanz3bar is nothing short of legendary, though I fear it is as lost as cause as is explaining Proust to a common dog.

[Shinylight]

"Physicists said Monday that they had whacked a tiny region of space with enough energy to briefly distort the laws of physics"

That can happen, it's called absolute hot, when particles reach the Planck Temperature conventional physical laws cease to apply. Whether scientists could do this or not is another matter entirely.

[mo3taz3nbar]

So Allah basically just said that the early universe was neither solid nor liquid... Big fucking deal. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of religions don't believe that the universe was initially solid or liquid either.

i hope that this will not be your answer for everything i will mention later

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@KichigaiNeko we are sharing knowledge here and you have to give a link for anything you say or you are the lazy one who dont want to do the search am not suppose to keep searching about everything you say.as i already search about what the ancients used to say about the universe in everything before i post it and if i find even something close to it i dont post it here

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to all the members who are really talking in a rude way i cant do the same to you as i dont talk to people like this so i will just ignore your posts unless you have the ability to talk like an adult