(February 15, 2016 at 2:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: While some view it as an objective morality, some would say it's a subjective, it's a never ending debate.I'm of the impression that religion is widespread because people who are religious, at least in the past, lived slightly longer and happier lives. Religious people worry less about the world because they can just put it down to their favouritre deity. Religious experiences can be triggered by drugs by the way.
The "Fitra" or "Instinct" that points people to God from birth, will always be a debatable concept.
Though, history is not on your side, since it's a known fact that religion dominated the world since the dawn of time.
(February 15, 2016 at 2:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: So, we technically don't know if the Pirahã are new, or that ancient. They might be some refugees who escaped the Spanish invasion in the 17 century; who knows? It's not like there is any history we can go back to.Had I not read the book myself, I might be inclined to give some weight to your doubts. However, in the book, Daniel Everett describes how the Pirahã have no words related to god, or any religion. They struggle to understand things which they cannot see and have no interest in learning about Jesus. Instead, they continuously entertained by David's recording of the Gospel of Mark in their language as they keep replaying the part of the recording where John the Baptist is beheaded. That was the only part they were interested in.
Daniel also provides a number of photographs of them in the book. Pretty sure they are not descendants of the Spanish, and they were then we'd see signs of that in their language too. And besides, it was the Portuguese who colonized Brazil. Now, recently, if I remember rightly, they have incorporated some Portuguese loanwords into their language, but not to the extent that we would expect if they were related to European explorers from the 17th century, as you posited. Their language is very primitive and unrelated to anything European.
In addition to their lack of religion and creation stories, he explains how they are essentially Primitive Communists (though he does not use that term) as they are like the Primitive Communists Marx and Engels talked about. The Pirahã do eventually tell Daniel that they like him but that they don't want to live like Americans or need his religion. So he started question his Daniel's broke off from his family when he finally had the courage to tell them that he became Atheist.
You can hear part of the book in this reading for the radio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zju5YwsP8GE
Daniel himself was interviewed for a radio program in New Zealand (part one of four):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXegoZrxcVk
(February 15, 2016 at 2:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Hamza "Jumped"? I thought you said he was a Wahhabi agent that works for Saudies all along?His organization gets money from al-Saud and council of ex-Muslims of Brtain released a report detailing many of the hateful things they have said. Zakir Naik and Yusuf Estes are involved in his organization (at least they used to be). Hamza worked his way up the Islamic Education and Research Academy - an organization that does not educate, does no research and is not an academy. For example, did you know that Adnan, also from iREA, believes that anyone that doesn't want Sharia is an apostate? I am sure it doesn't surprise you. He also says "If one claims to be a Muslim and doesnt want Islam as the governing system in his/her country then this person doesnt know what Islam is." So yeah, terribly dangerous people.
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