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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 30, 2016 at 8:38 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: An excellent relevant piece about what makes you, you. Pretty long, but interesting if you have the time.
Quote:When you say the word “me,” you probably feel pretty clear about what that means. It’s one of the things you’re clearest on in the whole world—something you’ve understood since you were a year old. You might be working on the question, “Who am I?” but what you’re figuring out is the who am part of the question—the I part is obvious. It’s just you. Easy.
But when you stop and actually think about it for a minute—about what “me” really boils down to at its core—things start to get pretty weird. Let’s give it a try:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/12/what-makes-you-you.html
This is really good. Thanks.
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 30, 2016 at 9:49 pm
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The "bridge" problem is this: if their are 2 unique substances, then how do they interact?
Let's say I have a brain and a mind, and they are unique. How does the brain let the mind know what's happening, and how does the mind influence the brain? There needs to be a mediating mechanism: substance "brainmind." But what would a bridge between 2 so totally different substances consist of? The soul? Nah. . . in what way would that have roots in either the mind OR the body ?
Nope. The dualist position requires God, He Who Make Possible What Is Impossible. Now things are easy:
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 30, 2016 at 10:05 pm
God has always been the special ingredient which makes poo digestible.
God = yeast!
Jesus must have been made of self raising flour?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 30, 2016 at 10:23 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 8:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: An excellent relevant piece about what makes you, you. Pretty long, but interesting if you have the time.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/12/what-makes-you-you.html
This is really good. Thanks.
Yeah, its pretty awesome. It's definitely a mind f*ck too. You think of things you hand't thought of before.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 30, 2016 at 10:24 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: An excellent relevant piece about what makes you, you. Pretty long, but interesting if you have the time.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/12/what-makes-you-you.html
Thanks. I've enjoyed other articles on that site. Just scanned it and will read it more closely soon.
Yep, as you well know I'm a fan of Wait But Why. Good stuff!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 1:06 am
(January 30, 2016 at 2:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 30, 2016 at 12:57 pm)Irrational Wrote: That would depend on what one believes constitutes "you".
Which is what I'm trying to find out by asking the question.
Boru
My point is that this is best answered by accepting that the self is a construct, an illusion. You can't theoretically pinpoint what the self is exactly.
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 1:30 am
Would you be comfortable accepting that God is a construct. An illusion?
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 1:38 am
(January 31, 2016 at 1:30 am)ignoramus Wrote: Would you be comfortable accepting that God is a construct. An illusion?
Sure. I'm an atheist, remember?
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 1:39 am
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I suppose it all comes down to perception or reality and not reality. Hell, I could self identify as a Spanish speaking squirrel with a learning disability, trapped in a white man's body who doesn't speak a word of Spanish, hence the learning disability.
Then we have Bruce Jenner that suddenly defines himself as a woman named Caitlyn. Delusional in my opinion, but to each their own.
There's also an example of a woman that could see, but self identified as a blind person, so her psychologist poured drain cleaner in her eyes to blind her so she could live her life as she felt she identified with. In my opinion she's crazy, and her psychologist should lose their license. What the hell is going on in this world?!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl...-ever.html
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 2:01 am
Hey, I'm new here. For me, I feel/think that "personal identity" is part genetics and partly your own personal journey through life.
From birth we naturally carry genetic traits that we receive from both of our parents. Whether or not you ever knew your real parents you still receive parts of their personality, mannerism's, facial expression's ect. But this is only the beginning. From there you actually collectively "collect" thought's and idea's over time from preschool, t.v. and whomever you associate with. Your base is what you were taught as a child. However, some people change their way's and thought's about certain idea's through the conviction of others. Life itself is a journey. We are drawn to certain idea's or thought's because they either feel reasonable to us or because they bring us some kind of comfort. Everyone wants to know what they are doing here on Earth ,well, as far as I can tell. I spent most of my life searching for answers. Alot of those answer's have been revealed to me after I went through Cancer and my mom passed away also from Cancer. So those are my thought's. Anyway, like I said this is my first post. I give a lot of thought to the question's in life before assuming anything. Let me know if my answer has helped sort out your thought's in any way? Ena
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