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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 12:49 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 9:28 am)abaris Wrote: Well, the deal with Iran seems to do it's job. After Iran's move to encourage tourism and to invite western investors, Rouhani now calls for women's rights.
Quote:In a speech marking Women's Day, Mr Rouhani criticised "those who consider women's presence society as a threat" and said Iran still had "a long way to go" to ensure gender equality.
Quote:"According to the Islamic rules, man is not the stronger sex and woman is not the weaker one," he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27099151
Equality would mean either change verse 4:34 of the quran or delete it entirely.
Quote:Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 12:57 pm
Apparently Rouhani is tired of his job.
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:07 pm
The optimist in me hopes he knows the Quran says no such thing, but that he knows it's wrong so wants to shove it through any way he can.
In England we have women preaching in church from the same book which says they're not allowed to talk in church. Hopefully the East will become civilized hypocrites like the West and we can all live peacefully.
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:29 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 12:49 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Equality would mean either change verse 4:34 of the quran or delete it entirely.
And don't come back until you've read it.
http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projec...index.html
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:31 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 9:28 am)abaris Wrote: Well, the deal with Iran seems to do it's job. After Iran's move to encourage tourism and to invite western investors, Rouhani now calls for women's rights.
Quote:In a speech marking Women's Day, Mr Rouhani criticised "those who consider women's presence society as a threat" and said Iran still had "a long way to go" to ensure gender equality.
Quote:"According to the Islamic rules, man is not the stronger sex and woman is not the weaker one," he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27099151
This is good news. Hopefully it eventually spreads to the other middle Eastern countries that are not there yet.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:39 pm
Iran is Shi'a. This would piss the Sunni's off even more.
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm
Do Shias and Sunnis actually even have different dogmas? Or is it still just because they disagreed on who should have been king 1000 years ago?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:54 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 1:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do Shias and Sunnis actually even have different dogmas?
You, as a Catholic, have a dogma. Protestants haven't. They also don't have an ultimate religious leader assuming to have sort of a red telephone to god. Same goes for Islam. There is no ultimate religious leader and no dogma. Neither for Sunnis nor for Shiites nor for the other different smaller denominations.
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:55 pm
1,300 years ago.
Here you go.
I'm sure they think this is worth massacring each other about!
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RE: Iran is starting to move
February 7, 2016 at 1:57 pm
Interesting info, thanks Min!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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